Re: 40D works well for birds in flight



"Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote:
"Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark)" <username@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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"Bruce" <brucefalcon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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One of the best bird in flight photos I've seen.

Bruce
Thanks Bruce. It rolls my socks because of the wing texture, which
typically gets blown out with digi-cams. It was an overcast day ... that,
plus a good camera and luck paid off.

This is a property of the metering system, not digital specifically.
E.g. slide film blows out easily too. Early digital cameras
did poorly at setting exposure in my experience but have gotten better.

If you would like some constructive criticism, while your image
has some allure to it, several things detract:

1) The bird's eye is not easily seen and appears a little
out of focus. Successful wildlife photos have the animal's
eye(s) in focus. Resolving the pupil is important as
it engages us. Catch light helps too.

2) The bird is flying away, giving the feeling of fleeing.
Try and get the bird flying toward the camera. The near
wing should be behind the center of the bird, indicating the
bird is moving closer. (I learned this from Art Morris'
books.)

3) Regarding the above rules, all rules can be broken ;-)

Try spot metering on the bird so you can set the proper exposure.

Some white bird photos:
http://www.clarkvision.com/galleries/gallery.egret.bird

Good luck and keep imaging.

Luck is part of it. There's more to this than you've said.
You have what, two seconds to do all that. Of course exposure
and rough focus can be set beforehand, but when the bird
appears, you don't have much time.

Please see my other post. In tracking birds or other
moving subjects, use predictive autofocus. When I do wildlife
photography, I use predictive autofocus most of the time.
Then as you gain experience, luck becomes less of a factor.

Yes, I saw your post after I posted the above. There is
no doubt that I personally need more experience.

For some of us (meaning *me*) simply tracking the bird is
hard enough.

I agree. I've gotten enough experience that I can often
predict where to be and what/when action will happen, but I
still fail at tracking, especially as speeds go up.
Smaller birds fly faster and are harder. And then tracking
while trying to keep a good composition, and keep from cutting
off a wing tip or leg is really hard. The first
cheetah I saw break into a full speed run on the Serengeti,
I was so stunned at how fast it was, I stopped trying to track
it and just watched in amazement. I need more practice ;-).

Depends. Was the cheetah running *at* you or away from you... ;-)

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--- Paul J. Gans
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