Re: Ping John Bean & David Taylor: Samsung 24" LCD monitor clarified


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Neil Harrington added these comments in the current discussion
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Well, across the screen DIAGONALLY if that's what you mean.
All monitor and TV screen sizes are measured on the diagonal.

That is what I meant, Neil. It was my bad to use the wrong word.
What really rang my bell yesterday is when I discoverd that a
pretty gigantic physical size 244T, while 24" wide diagonally
which is ideal for wide-screen movies and stills, it is actually
1/4" smaller vertically, so in reality to my perverted brain, it
looked like mindless insanity to spend money and get smaller,
until David and now you used the compelling logic that I can do a
better job with my Rebel images on a 16: 10 monitor.

The only LCD monitors go I've seen that are 4:3 are either 15"
(1024 x 768) or 21" (1600 x 1200). The 17" and 19" standard
(i.e., not widescreen) monitors are invariably 1280 x 1024,
which is 5:4. That's close enough for most practical purposes,
but does result in slight vertical stretching of a 4:3 image.

Somewhat over 2 years ago, when I bought the 213T, I was entirely
ignorant of aspect ratio to the point of being oblivous. I just
assumed they were 4:3, and we all know what happens when we
assume! <grin> It was just blind luck, I think, that the monitor
I chose, the 213T, was one of only a very few 4:3 monitors larger
than 19" at the time.

Check Newegg.com and see what they have that may suit you.
Most larger screens nowadays are widescreen, so if you
absolutely positively don't want widescreen you're probably
going to be limited to 21". But see what Newegg has. If
there's a monitor made today that will suit you, Newegg
probably has it.

I'll take a look. Thanks for the idea, Neil. In the last 2 days,
I have come around both looking at monitors in local stores and
Googling for them that there just ain't no big 4:3, and probably
for good reason. I still want a Samsung as I am extremely
impressed with their image quality and price, and others seem to
agree. But, I am MAJORLY pissed that in 2 days, I have been 100%
unsuccessful in getting to a human being in the right customer
service department - the sales end, not repair - that can answer
my question about supported resolutions other than the native
1920 x 1200.

I did find out at Best Buy yesterday that the 245B and probably
244T DO support less than native, with image degradation, but it
appeared like the 1280 and 1600 sizes were slightly elongated
vertically. e.g., instead of 1280 x 960 which is 4:3, it appears
that the 244/245 do 1280 x 1024, which would make it very
difficult to edit car pictures without introducing some degree of
distortion unknowingly. Since I have decided to delay my
purchase, which I explained in my other reply to you, I'm just
going to calm down and try Samsung again when I get more serious.
Or, just buy the blinking thing and test it for myself. Best Buy
and Circuit City will both give me a 10-day trial with full
charge refund and no restocking fee so long as I don't mangled
the box or damage the monitor, and also that I not open the
driver and utilities CD. Both of these restrictions are entirely
reasonable to me; if I wound up getting an open box when I do
buy, I would certainly hope the person who brought it back wasn't
a twit.

Anecdotal evidence seems to indicate that the people one can
readily talk to, e.g., Best Buy, Circuit City, other stores,
perhaps Newegg do not necessarily know specifically what the
entire spectrum of support resolutions are and which will distort
a 4:3 image and which won't. Again, that is reasonable since they
are selling to what SHOULD be a customer that intends to run at
16:10. So, in the final analysis, I somehow just need to find out
what happens if I display one of my 4:3 images. There's only two
possibilities for each supported resolution: they either fill the
screen but aree distorted or they show black bars at the left and
right. Black bars are OK, distortion is not, obviously.

Thanks again for your ideas and observations.

--
HP, aka Jerry

You're very welcome, and good luck in your search for the best monitor.

I have limited experience with Best Buy and Circuit City, but they do appear
to have excellent return policies. The only downside to that, of course, is
that when you buy a new monitor it may be someone else's return, and might
even have been returned more than once. But obviously there is the advantage
that if you're unhappy with the purchase for whatever reason, you can just
put it in the car and bring it back -- whereas in the case of an online
purchase you'd end up paying shipping both ways, plus the greater
inconvenience of having to ship it.

However, I've bought almost all my monitors (quite a few, over the years)
online, mostly from Newegg.com or Buy.com, and have almost always been
perfectly satisfied -- and at a substantially lower price than available
locally, even with shipping.

Apart from the cost and bother of having to ship one back, online sellers
may not have the easy acceptance of returns that your local BB or CC does.
Newegg for example won't take back an LCD with less than eight bad pixels,
and in a few cases won't even do that but refers you to the maker/importer
for satisfaction. Of course the good side to that is they must get very few
returns, so you're reasonably sure of getting a brand new one.

As a practical matter this stricter seller's return policy hasn't been a
problem for me. I've so far bought seven LCD monitors online and only one
(an inexpensive 15" I bought for playing older games, mostly 640 x 480 with
no adjustment for any other aspect ratio) has a single stuck blue pixel,
which most of the time can't even be seen so doesn't bother me.

So "yer pays yer penny and yer takes yer choice" as the saying goes.

Neil


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