Re: Monitor dimensions
- From: BF@xxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:54:19 -0400
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:10:07 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" <none@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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I have a Samsung 245 wide screen 24" HD monitor, and I can
tell you a few things about it...
First, normally you must run it at native resolution, 1920 x
1200, a ratio of 1.6.
Since it's screen size is 52 x 32, this is the same ratio, and
will give you non-distorted pictures.
Other resolutions available with my Nvida 7600 card are:
1600x1200 1.333
1600x1900 1.777
1280x1024 1.25
1280x960 1.333
Note that all of these other resolutions DO NOT match the size
ratio of the screen, at 1.6, and therefore distort the image.
There is NO size adjustment on these kinds of monitors... you
cannot create black bands at the sides, for example, unless
you had some kind of video card that could do that, but that
is not what you want...
I don't know if my ATI card will or will not facilitate black
bars, but what I WANT is to run at 4:3. Since I am a realist and
can do simple arithmetic, I can understand that one of 2 things
must be true: 1) I get black bars or 2) I get an elongated image.
I can live with 1) but not with 2).
I don't understand why you want to run Windows in 4x3... it makes no sense to do
so! Your pictures have nothing to do with the screen size and shape of
Windows...
( Running 4x3 on a 16x9 is a bit impossible!)
So, I do have a question for you, although your hardware is quite
a bit different than mine: if you choose 1600 x 1200 or 1280 x
960, which your nVidia card supports, am I reading you right, the
card will display that resolution, but the picture will be
distorted?
That's correct. Remember, this is a computer, not a photo machine... some people
only look at text...
So, this is sort of like a faux resolution. Windows
thinks it knows what to send to the video card and the card knows
what to do but the monitor is saying "these people are stupid, so
I'll just distort the image anyway."
Read above....
Don't forget that the picture (and text) will also be messed up by the re-scale
function... The monitor has 1920x1200 pixel areas, attempting to show 1600 in
1920 is impossible to do in integer math, so there will be some pixels doubled
up and some singled. The distortion is not so readily visible on an old style
CRT because the beam 'paints' the screen, and can paint half a pixel phosphor
area if necessary. This is not true for LCD since the entire cell must be on or
off.
I find this monitor great for photo editing, because I canThank you for your input and valuable first-hand experience. As
move all of the tools off of the photo to work, instead of
constantly shuffling around. It's like a big 19" with an extra
5 inchs to work!
DON'T WORRY about the aspect ratio of the monitor, your photos
will display correctly when it is set to native resolution,
and of course the PHOTO will display with "black bands" when
you resize it, if necessary. Everything works out!
AND if you find the windows a bit small, you can go in and
make the window fonts bigger - I did. And if I can see it with
my old eyes, you can too!
BTW there are 2 inputs, analog and digital - I recomend the
digital (buy a new card if you have to ) the picture is
BEAUTIFUL!
to analog vs. digital, sorry but I strongly disagree. My 213T has
both but if I connect the digital ALL of the monitor controls are
disabled and I cannot do anything to picture placement,
You have a problem with your monitor. My monitor retains all menu functions,
maybe you have an Auto setting to turn off... The first thing I did was turn
down the brightness and contrast! I have an HD wall paper up that looks 3-D!
brightness/contrast, color balance, nothing. That might be OK if
I liked what I saw, as it isn't my bag to try to out-smart a
monitor, but I thought my car pictures looked absolutely awful
with digital connected to my ATI Radeon card, and quickly went
back to analog.
Typically the digital signal will be better then the analog due to the extreme
high speeds in use on these big monitors. Don't judge all monitors by yours!
I believe it is impossible for me to actually look at any of
these higher end monitors locally. My area of SE Michigan is
losing all of its true computer stores where all the neat techie
stuff could be found and there were people there that knew their
stuff. Instead, there's places like Best Buy, Circuit City, and
like mass merchandizing shops. A large, expensive monitor doesn't
sell in enough quantify for them to justify carrying it. Their
ordinary customers want something maybe 17", certainly no more
than 19" and CHEAP. OK, I can dig that.
I got my Samsung after seeing it displayed at Future Shop... bought it on the
spot!
So, my plan is to look at the manual for the 244T David found,
call Samsung, if I like what I hear, I'll have my local Circuit
City do one of their "manager special order" deals, take the
blinking thing home and see for myself. Circuit City has assured
me that if I do what I describe here, I CAN return the monitor
for full charge refund within 30 days and no restocking fee.
.
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