Re: Easy newbie Canon Rebel XT 1st questions

Today David J Taylor commented courteously on the subject at
hand

>>>> Today commented courteously on the subject at hand []
>>>>> I suggest you find a better way to make your examples
>>>>> visible. AFAIAC, alt.binaries.paint-shop-pro doesn't
>>>>> exist. Why not choose a more popular group that all
>>>>> servers carry?
>>>>
>>>> Because, the pagen god you all bow down to, David J.
>>>> Taylor, specifically asked for this NG. As it is all old
>>>> news now, the point is moot. Please don't worry about
>>>> the original complaint.
>>>
>>> Just to set the record straight.
>>>
>>> I did not ask for a binary newsgroup, but Jerry wanted to
>>> go that route, and offered only that medium to download
>>> his images. He then asked which one of three or four
>>> binary newsgroups he should use. Whilst saying I
>>> preferred a Web or FTP download from which to get the
>>> images, I tried to help him by suggesting the binary
>>> newsgroup with the least clutter as far as I could tell.
>>> I then got a telling off for suggesting than an
>>> alternative download route might have been better.
>>>
>> Since "DJT" wants to "set the record straight", let's
>> straighten the entire road. I said I didn't want to use Ed
>> Ruf's kind offer to host my images on his web site and
>> pinged David to ask which of 3 NGs he preferred. He picked
>> the one I expected he would - a PSP NG - which is uncommon
>> on many servers hence nobody could see them. And, while
>> they came up immediately on my GigaNews server, David said
>> it took days for him. Hey, it's /his/ preference, not
>> mine!
>
> No, my preference would be a Web or FTP server.
>
That is /not/ what I said! I said /I/ don't like web or FTP and
gave you 3 Usenet choices. /You/ picked the one that nobody can
see, it wasn't my choice. But, I silently predicted you'd pick
it because you like the PSP NG where Greg Farr and some others
post. Then, you complained to me multiple times for how long it
took for you to see what I saw /prior/ to saying the images were
out there, and you have yet to say anything constructive about
them. I looked this morning and there are /no/ comments on any
of my images. And, David, I honestly cannot recall the last
timee that /you/ posted anything, anywhere.

At this point, I really don't care about the original noise
issue anymore. After trying my fav camera store's allegedly
working camera and seeing the exact same noise - you know, the
noise that you claim Rebel XT's don't produce yet you've never
actually tried one? - I am now working on my technique to
minimize the noise through altering the XT's photometric
settings and guarding against underexposure. The first step
toward the latter was to buy a Canon 430 external, with GN=110,
take it back to the WPC this morning, re-shoot the lot, and try
both high ISO available light and full manual flash at ISO 100.

When I get home and evaluate what worked and what didn't, /I/
will choose the place(s) to post full-size 5.5 MP unedited
images, and post a "info" message here to anyone who a) actually
wants to look, b) actually wants to help by looking at the EXIF
and the images on their monitor, and maybe see things I don't,
and c) wants to make constructive comments. This time will be
different - if you and the others don't cooperate, Okey Dokey by
me. I'll just ignore your smart ass retorts. That'll be
particularly true of people who do not own a Canon Rebel XT,
have never used one, and them that don't have the time or
inclination to actually look at what I post before taking me on.

And with that, I wish you, David, and all the other members of
this NG, a Very Happy New Year, and a prosperous 2006!

--
ATM, aka Jerry

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death
your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall under the
pseudonym Stephen G. Tallentyre
.

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