Re: Diet for Calcium Oxalate Stones in Mini Schnauzer

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Hi folks,

I have a 4 year old Miniature Schnauzer. A few months ago, he had
surgery to remove 5 stones from his bladder. The stones were analyzed
and found to be Calcium Oxalate.

My question is: what do people recommend for a diet for this
condition? He's been on the Royal Canin Urinary SO diet for a few
months now. I've heard so many bad things about RX diets (full of
fillers and less than desirable ingredients) and there are many
questions as to whether these types of diets even work for these types
of stones.

To add to it all, my new vet only carries Science Diet, no Royal
Canin. I'm questioning whether I want to switch to that food.

If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it. I don't want my little
guy to have to endure another surgery but I also don't want to feed
him crap if it's not even going to help.

TIA,
Jen

My Havanese, Max, had (CO) bladder stones when he was about three.
People at RPDH advised me to consult with a veterinary nutritionist and
I found Rebeca Remillard here:

http://www.petdiets.com/
http://www.petdiets.com/aboutfounder.asp

She formulated a diet for Max. The major feature of the diet is
that it is low in oxalate. Max's diet primarily consists of black eyed
peas, brown rice, calcium carbonate, multivitamins, flax seed oil,
sodium chloride, and potassium chloride. (But there are other ways
of formulating a low oxalate diet--with meat!)

In addition, I administer potassium citrate to keep his urine
slightly basic (PH range: 6.75-8.00). It took me several months
to find the right dose of potassium citrate so his urine's PH
was in the right range and so there were no crystals in his urine.

Remillard also consulted with my dog's veterinarian in developing
the diet and the initial fee (much cheaper back then) includes
a (doggy) life-time of consults.

As Max aged he has developed other problems and so came to take
other agents such as Actigal for his gall bladder. The
later agent is a bile salt/acid and so I had to adjust the
level of potassium citrate again. And again, when
he began taking Glucosamine with Chondroitin Sulfate.

Some would complain that the work never ends, but I consider
these efforts a labor of love.

I fix a batch of Max's food once a month. It takes a little
over an hour and he is constantly on "food patrol"
for rice or peas to hit the floor.

Max will ten years old this Oct 24th. I cherish his
time with me.

--Marshall

PS: My wife says that if she dies before me she, if possible,
wants to be reincarnated as my dog!!



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