Re: Follow up on Canidae



In article <1135354778.616830.307960@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Steve Crane <eodemolay@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>Nonsense - Eagle has so little market share they don't even show up in
>most market share evaluations.

I'd bet good money that their market share is growing faster
than yours.

>Eukanuba backed out of the mushing
>business years ago when they made an error in adding just a bit too
>much barley to the diet and gave half the mushing dogs in Alaska pipe
>stream diahrrea.

Uh, no. They still sponsor individual mushers and they
still sponsor events.

>Add all the working dogs that exist - sled dogs, cattle dogs, hunting
>dogs (which are only active about 30 days out of the year) and every
>other performance dog on earth and it's still a tiny tiny tiny tiny
>segment of the market.

Do you know what proportion of the market that feeds premium
foods also does performance events? I don't, but I'd be
surprised if those were independent.

> BS - that's got to be the most ludicrous statement I've ever seen. The
>"middle" is the dogs with arthritis, cancer, alzheimer's, kidney
>disease - mushing dogs are off the far end of the spectrum. Your'e
>assumption that mushing dogs are anywhere in the "middle" is simply
>silly in the extreme.

That's not the middle that's being excluded. You're
offering up a choice between veterinary diets and
performance diets, and you're excluding other options (it's
also known as the logical fallacy of the false dilemma, if
that's clearer for you). Clearly Eukanuba doesn't see those
as mutually exclusive. If that's not your market that's
your choice but it is, after all, a choice.

>> Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community.

>Reality based????

Yes. Ron Suskind quoting a presidential aide in October
2004:

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call
the reality-based community," which he defined as people
who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious
study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way
the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an
empire now, and when we act, we create our own
reality.

>Reality is that focusing resources against major
>diseases that affect the vast majority of dogs is the right thing to do
>from _every_ perspective.

Absolutely. And concluding that I don't think that based on
what I've posted would be a logical fallacy of presumption,
specifically the complex question.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore@xxxxxxxxx

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community.
.



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