Re: Breeders who advertise in paper
- From: "Judy" <doubleq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:21:22 -0500
"bethgsd@xxxxxxxxxx" <bethgsd@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> Hahaha! I win, I think. The boys breeder is something like ten hours
> away, not counting potty breaks. We keep in touch, mostly by email.
I think ten hours plus would have eliminated us as potential buyers. Email
works mostly but I think even if we had been deemed perfect that she still
would have wanted some way of following up - at least for the first dog.
Now I think we could live across the country. Although we still might be
required to make an annual visit.
> She gets to hear all the good things, 'cause there ain't no bad in
> these boys!, like titles and ofa results.
Oh yeah? Well MINE are perfect. I even reported back to her last week
after they saw the vet. The vet couldn't stop smiling as she listened to
their hearts and wrote WOW on their reports. I knew the breeder would want
to hear that they were deemed to have incredible hearts. I think the only
way I'm going to get their eye exams done is to go to the breeder's home.
She has an opthamologist come there every year and do all her dogs at once.
We can't seem to come up with an easier way of getting the tests done. (One
trial we do each year has a clinic but I need their vision clear for the
agility course!) Both dogs have had clear tests previously and both are
neutered. I'm not doing annual exams like she is but I'd like to get it
done every three or four years just to add to the information base.
>She does obedience, tracking
> and agility with her dogs. In my breed there is such a huge split
> between American showlines and anything German that conformation
> showing, or lack thereof, means next to nothing.
The breeder used to also breed standard schnauzers besides the miniatures.
(And is working to get some of her lines back to do it again.) Conformation
still counts for them. She used to do more performance but since she now
spends 30-35 weekends a year at breed shows, there just isn't time. BUT she
does have the background and does consider it an important part of her
breeding program that her dogs, given the opportunity, can do it all. Some
of her standard puppies have gone on to SAR and earthquake rescue training.
I think she's still hoping to hear of one of her line getting involved in
She knows her miniatures are killers but I know she really wants us to get
those earthdog titles on our two to prove it. (Maybe this year we'll find
time for that too.) And agility is just proof that you are spending time
and playing with your dog. She celebrates each title. But mostly she wants
to hear that the dogs are having fun doing it. Because she already *knew*
> The local AKC club does the same here. I have some doubts about the
> breeders that they pass people too though.
True. The club that does it is better than some. Another club nearby has
never impressed me with most of their members - much less with who they are
willing to list as breeders on their website. Several members of the club
were shocked and disappointed when I had Spenser neutered. They obviously
didn't approve that the breeder had sold him to me with a neuter agreement.
I have no interest in conformation; I have no interest in breeding. And
while he has a very nice head and classic markings, his back is too long and
not flat enough. A perfect pet and loves his agility. But he should not be
bred. Clearly they (who were not schnauzer people) felt that he should be
shown and bred or I was wasting him. Not the sign of a breeder that I would
recommend to anyone.
> > Particularly when most of the ads are for puppies that are
> > *ready NOW* or the most recent onslaught of "will hold for Christmas".
> Judy, I
> I didn't know you lived in Richmond!
I think it was some of your people advertising up here this year. Honestly,
it *was* a lot of ads from SE PA - three or fours hours away, Philadelphia
or Amish country. Multiple breeds available.
We usually run about 5-10 dog ads in our classifieds - including the free to
good home. (I can remember *one* ad for retrievers that mentioned OFA.)
For Christmas that becomes closer to 30 - 50. We have one family nearby who
have crossed line from BYB to puppymill - they have ads most of the time for
a smorgasbord of small breeds with a variety of registries. But even they
were completely drowned out this year with the ones from out of the area.
I can see a dog club in the area being able to advertise and make some
possible progress in getting information out. But for an individual
breeder, with one litter a year or less, it would be spitting into the wind.
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