Re: won a battle, losing the war

Rocky <3dogs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> spoke these words of wisdom in
news:Fri9AEACD28F93A9australianshepherdca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:

"pfoley" <pfoley6@xxxxxxxxxxx> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

I like ducks, geese and chickens and would not want
any one of them to be injured or killed, but I also like
foxes and other wild life, and feel that after the first
poultry killings, Diddy should have found a better solution
to protecting them, other than running around with a
shotgun. Had she found a better solution in fencing then
maybe, all her poultry and the fox would still be alive
today and Tuck wouldn't have caught his foot in a trap
with the risk of possibly amputating it while trying to
find the chickens.

You presume a lot, so I will, too.

Perhaps Diddy considers her chickens and ducks as pets.
Certainly, they're income and livelyhood. She has described
the steps she took in prevention but which didn't work.

Instead of condemning her attempted solution, maybe you can
offer an alternative. "Should have could have" sanctimony
sucks.


Frankly, I want organic free range chickens. Which means they get exposed
to the elements, know what mud is between their toes, sun on their back and
the joy of dust baths. They enjoy sampling the weeds, garden vegetables
when they can steal them, and thrill at catching bugs.
Watching the chickens all day is VERY entertaining.
Knowing they will be food in 6 weeks, at least I know these chickens had a
very high quality and happy life. Unlike battery birds, with one square
foot each, being pecked by other birds, never moving, and not even owning
feathers. The birds have to be kept on antibiotics from hatch to butcher,
so they don't die in crowded contagion.
These chickens have no antibiotics, and sunshine and fresh air.
They get put up at night. They ARE fenced in. But some of the chickens and
ducks don't always get in at night when the chicken house gets locked up.

Often they are hiding under building foundations hoping for an all night
camp out, undetected.

If they camp out, they are dead birds, because night predators WILL find
them and kill them. And I would never have locked up the chicken house if I
didn't know they weren't all in.

I don't feel any remorse, Part of having free range chickens to live free
as they were meant to be, means taking predation risks. There WILL be
losses, but they died free and happy. And naturally.
What's left, we get to eat. Either way, they end up food... unless fox get
them. They kill everything for sport, and leave a field littered with dead
bodies. They don't take what they need, they just go on murderous
slaughter.
Anyone having romantic notions of bambi and disneyfied foxes are out of
touch with reality. So they can criticize all they want, and it doesn't
bother me a bit. Because i consider the source and know they don't know
what the hell they are talking about.
If a fox took just one chicken because it needed it for food, It wouldn't
bother me. But fox kill everything on site. And will keep killing until
everything is dead.
Once a fox finds a flock, the only way to protect that flock is to see that
fox finds itself dead.
If someone has issue with that. It's just too damn bad. I really don't give
a *** if they have issues. Hope they stay off my place though because they
are too sensitive to live here.
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