Re: dog-puppy relations


"sighthounds & siberians" <x@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:56:24 +1200, "~shady angel~"
<angie@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Lynne wrote:
on Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:40:19 GMT, "~shady angel~" <angie@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I know it's when
they are making no noise and going at it is when one should worrie.

And you know this how? Because mine never make noise when they are
"going at it." As far as I know, they both still have all of their
body parts in tact. Well, except for Roxy's uterus, but she hasn't
had that for a very long time and Hendrix had nothing to do with it.

Just in my experience when my dog wants to frighten a dog he makes noise,
if
he's going to hurt a dog he doesn't make a sound.
I'm not saying I've had alot of exprience with this as I've only seen it
happen with my dog once and he was only protecting me from a unprovoked
attack from the neighbours pit x masstif.
Please dont take it personally I'm only putting out my opinion.

I think to some extent that may be true - if a dog wants to tell
another dog to back off, he's going to vocalize. Some dogs may attack
without 'verbal' warning. However, years ago we had two female dogs
that used to mix it up periodically - these were serious fights,
always resulting in injuries - and they definitely made noise that I
will never forget.


From what I have read, some dogs, such as pit bulls, do not make any noise
when they attack another dog, but this was in the context of dog fighting.
As such, it is an advantage to the dog not to vocalize a warning, so the
attack comes as a surprise with the most devastating effect. When Muttley
attacked the dogs in obedience class, I don't think he made any sound, and
certainly no prior warning. That was one reason I thought he might have
some PBT in his heritage.

When Muttley and Lucky were being socialized, especially off-leash, there
were definitely some barks and growls. Some seemed to be playful, and were
accompanied by play bows, brief pawing, and quick feints of attacks to the
neck or hind regions. At other times, such as when Lucky was "guarding" a
chewy that Muttley wanted, she stared at him and gave a menacing growl. She
was on the bed behind me, and it almost made me jump off the chair. I don't
recall Muttley doing much or any growling of this kind.

Lucky is generally more vocal than Muttley. When I would leave her, she
almost always barked and whined. Muttley usually barks and whines in
response to noises or when he sees a deer or other possible "prey". So,
there seems to be a difference in the two dogs, and it may be due to their
innate breed-determined dispositions, and/or their experiences.

Paul, Muttley, and Lucky


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