Re: newgroup etiguette

Melinda:
you have completely missed the point...
I agree ads do not belong here. This was never in question.

and as impressive as your professional qualifications may be...again, not
the point.
You make assumptions, without basis...that is the point.


"Melinda Shore" <shore@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:dlvj51$472$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> In article <BXHgf.77$dM1.15@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> RobDar <whats-it-to-you@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> nice try. I have traced the first 4 routing servers, I should know
>> who
>>you are by the end of the day.
>
> Chances are that it came from a zombie. Good luck with
> that.
>
>>...and we are so proud of you. So you have made it your mission to
>>determine
>>what we are allowed to see and to post?
>
> No, but with your "14 years of experience" you should be
> aware that ads really aren't acceptable anywhere on Usenet
> except in groups specifically created to carry ads, and that
> topicality and overall whateverness evolve on the basis of
> participant consensus. One of the characteristics of
> consensus is that it does tend to be pretty robust against
> some stranger wandering in and trying to blow it all to
> hell.
>
>>What are your qualifications for determining
>>what the rest of us are allowed to see and or read?
>
> If you're trying to use Usenet to do your shopping, you
> certainly can do that. Look for groups with things like
> ".forsale" and ".marketplace" in their names. However, if
> you really think that the namespace should be flat
> (unstructured) and that everybody should post about
> everything everywhere, I encourage you to take dog
> discussions to comp.unix.wizards and see how it goes.
>
>>I do not think you truely have a
>>true grasp on spam sources at all...
>
> I think I probably do. Aside from over 20 years experience
> on Usenet as both an administrator (in the 1980s) and as a
> user, I'm a technical leader in the advanced cryptographic
> development organization of the security technologies group
> with the largest network equipment vendor. Among other
> things I've been involved in anti-spam technology
> development efforts both within the company and within
> international standards bodies (and ain't it going
> *great*?). Mostly, however, I work on access controls and
> authorization mechanisms.
>
>>if you do not like what you read...filter it...it is why the filters were
>>made.
>
> Encouraging people to killfile your posts would seem, at
> least, to be consistent with creating webpages that people
> can't read. You're apparently what we call a "write-only"
> participant.
>
>>"...there are no degrees of either truth or freedom. Limit either, in even
>>the smallest fashion, and they cease to be."
>
> Good heavens - libertoonian claptrap. It's precisely
> constraints on behavior (for example, criminalizing things
> like robbery, murder, and fraud) that allow broad social and
> economic freedoms in the first place. Americans understood
> markets and capitalism better 100 years ago than we do
> today.
> --
> Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore@xxxxxxxxx
>
> Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community


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