Re: I can relate!

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On Aug 30, 2:23 pm, outsider <not@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Christina Websell" <spamf...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
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My doctor is now waffling about whether or not I need surgery. I
think he's figured out I don't have health insurance.

It might not be that he's figured out that you don't have health
insurance, maybe more that you've improved, so that you are not
in such a serious situation as before and may not need it.
Doctors the world over need to cover their backs so he's giving
you the facts and offering you the options.
Oh, he knows alright. I had to talk with his office manager when
I got the bill from when he saw me while I was in the hospital.
It's well over $1000 USD and he hadn't spent a total of an hours
time with me. She discounted the bill by 25%. But his aren't the
only bills. I've got bills for all the lab work, radiology, etc.
I'm surprised I haven't gotten a bill from the person who brought
me my meals. LOL

This is just my opinion, right? - if you are managing okay atm
and can tolerate it I wouldn't rush into gut surgery. I found it
horribly painful and would certainly avoid it if I could.
You don't seem to trust your doctor, why is that?

I don't know this guy. He's just someone they sent to see me
after I was admitted to the hospital. Granted, I don't hobnob
with gastric surgeons. Maybe if I was back home and my personal
physician had sent me to him I'd feel differently.

If he is not sure if you need the surgery now and is offering you
the choice of yes or no, you probably don't *need* it, in the
sense that it's essential.
You seem very cynical, Jill. Don't doctors take the Hyppocratic
Oath in America or something similar these days?
http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000020/

Yes, I'm cynical. And yes, they do take a Hippocratic Oath.
Doesn't mean they aren't ruled by the almighty (not so mighty
right now!) dollar. It's just he seemed to do a 180. He was so
sure I needed the surgery; he was talking in terms of WHEN, not
IF. After my talk with his office manager now it's really up to
me. Coincidence?

Who knows if it's a coincidence or not? He hasn't said he won't do
it if you opt for it, has he? If he had, then that *would* make me
doubt him. If might even be, perish the thought ;-), that he isn't
sure of the benefits of surgery for you now it's settled down and
is thinking of the financial problems it might cause you - if we
now assume he knows about your lack of medical insurance.
There *are* some good people in the world, you know, and some of
them are even doctors!
I would avoid abdominal surgery myself unless it was absolutely
essential but only you know whether it's essential - in terms of
tolerating your symptoms. If your doctor has offered you a choice
I would guess that *he* doesn't think it is at this point (from a
saving-your-life point of view.)

Tweed

Jill,

Maybe if you came right out and asked "if I decide the surgery is
the right thing to do, what might it cost me?" That might allow him
to speak more honestly about your need or lack of need. He may have
even reassessed his recomendation based on an improvement in your
condition.

The doc - any doc - cannot predict the future as to Jill's condition.
Instead of
voicing this fact, he tells her, "it may or may not come
back"....meaning: if
you go for surgery, you might have the need to have it again for the
same
reason".
I would be asking the doc dude, "what do you believe the chances are
of my
condition necessitating the eventual use of mechanical devices in
place to
deal with bowel resection results in my case?" You would get no solid
answer
because *he can't predict*! BTW, LOL, posts are cropping up every few
minutes
that make this pointed discussion infinitely interesting in
comparison, be it as it is.




Yeah, I guess once in a while intelligent discourse breaks out despite
ourselves :)



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