Re: Dad's Decline (OT and Long)
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- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:28:10 -0500
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An update, which may be premature. After rallying and doing so wellsnip
upon his last admission to the hospital... after being moved from ICU
to a regular room and charming all the nursing staff, he stopped
eating. So they did the nasal feeding tube thing. At that point he
could still swallow. Now, he can't.
Jill
This brings me back 20 years when my dad had a massive stroke,
paralyzing
him on the right side and he was unable to swallow. They put in the
stomach feeding tube, but it only prolonged the inevitable for 2 weeks.
My
mother and I tried to let him go (we knew his wishes), but the doctor
refused saying they weren't there to kill people. My mother didn't cry
much at the time, but afterwards, she cried every day for years. I just
hope you don't have problems with the rest of the family, who often
criticize the actions taken by those who have to make the decisions,
while
they are miles away and don't deal with it.
Take care, and as my dad used to say, chin up.
Bobble
The rest of the family may not need to know. When my husband was dying,
I knew his wishes, and talked things over with my children. We were all
in agreement. Near the end, the doctor said he could continue a
particular medication that would prolong things, but wouldn't really do
any good. He asked if I wanted him to stop it, and continue the
morphine, which kept him comfortable. After discussing it with the kids,
I told him yes. A couple of hours later, my mother-in-law was there when
a nurse came in and said she was going to put in a shunt so they wouldn't
have to keep sticking needles in him. Then she turned to me and asked,
"Did the doctor tell you what he's going to do?" I said yes. When he
went out, my mother-in-law asked sharply, "What is the doctor going to
do?" I just said, "He's having the nurse put in a shunt so they can give
his medications more easily." She accepted that. I don't think she
would have agreed with our decision, so I didn't tell her about it.
Joy
I've told him. He didn't quite understand (for example) why the vascular
surgeon said Dad probably wouldn't survive having half his leg amputated
and would not recommend we even try that. He's not actually
*challenging* the decisions I'm making (and yes, I'm talking all of this
over with Mom first) but he is asking me lots of questions that almost
sound like he disagrees.
He saw him last August; at that point he took Dad out to lunch, they rode
around in the golf cart a couple of times. Things have changed rapidly
and he really doesn't want to accept it. Then again, hopefully without
sounding bitter (I'm really not), if he wants things handled differently
he should bring his a** down here and deal with it himself.
Sadly, my oldest brother is more interested in what condition the house is
in, for selling it (or turning it into a time-share which is strictly
against the covenants of the Island, anyway.) Besides, it's Mom's house
and she's still very much alive. But then, he called the day Mom was
admitted to the hospital (1/29) asking for a large sum of money. When I
told him she was at the doctor and I was 100% sure he'd put her in the
hospital he said, "Just leave her a note and tell her I need $." Nice.
(Note: he has since quit his job. He wasn't making big bucks but it was
better than nothing.)
Of course, middle-bro assumed Mom would move in with him when Dad dies
and had what would have been an office/study in his house built a little
larger so it could be her bedroom. A nice gesture, and maybe one day
she'll do that. It still irks me *her* bathroom is actually the guest
bathroom off the foyer. I'm pretty sure she doesn't want his guests (he
likes to entertain) traipsing in and out of her bathroom!
Dad's older sister, his only living sibling, knows he's quite near the
end. She doesn't need every little detail. But she wouldn't question us
even if she did.
Jill
I feel for you, Jill. My mother went through much the same thing with her
father - he had poor circulation in his legs, one was amputated just above
the knee. He only lived another 3-6 months after that. While my
grandfather was lucid, he didn't speak a word of English (he was from
Germany), and obstinate at that (I used to call him Grumpa instead of
Grandpa). He refused a majority of his food, and didn't want to live.
Fortunately, he had a Dr that was compassionate and understood that my
grandfather (he was 91 when he passed) did not have a good quality of life
left, and refused to tube feed him for the sake of "keeping him alive".
Instead, they kept him as comfortable as they could, until he passed in his
sleep one night.
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