Re: Request from Helen S.


"CatNipped" <lcrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Christina Websell" <spamfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "CatNipped" <lcrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> > Helen S. has asked me to ask any Brits on the group is they had any
>> > experience in getting dental work done abroad in other EU countries.
>> > Here's
>> > a quote from her email...
>> >
>> > "Got real problems getting a dentist to do what is needed under a
> general
>> > anaesthetic. Vernon was appalled at the behaviour of the dentist I saw
>> > today. Meanwhile thanks to stupid dentist, my jaw continues to fester.
> As
>> > Vernon said, "Now I understand why you have a problem with dentists..."
> It
>> > was so bad today I was reduced to sitting in a car park sobbing my
>> > eyeballs
>> > out in public ... *embarrassment*"
>> >
>> > Hugs,
>> >
>> > CatNipped
>> >
>> >
>> There are some dentists that specialise in dental-phobic patients.
> Helen's
>> local health authority should be able to lead her towards them without
>> her
>> having to go abroad. Her own doctor might even know how to refer her for
>> treatment that she can tolerate. My heart goes out to her.
>> I have a problem at the dentist too. I am not afraid of any pain but I
>> heave and retch all the time instruments are in my mouth and the dentists
>> don't like it and get annoyed.
>> I last went around 2 years ago because there was what I thought was a
> growth
>> on my gum. I hadn't previously gone for 15 years or so.
>> It turned out to be something called a "gum tag", nothing to worry about.
>> The dentist was quite skilled at examining my mouth while it was only
>> slightly open, as opening it wide with mirrors in etc makes me retch
>> uncontrollably.
>> The estimate for putting my teeth right was £70. Not too bad but I
> thought
>> I'd leave it until another day. I can hardly believe that the estimate
> for
>> putting Ginger-Lyn's teeth right was so much that she can't afford it.
> Does
>> your USA health system stink or what? It seems to me that people who are
> in
>> the most need through low income cannot get proper health care if what
> I've
>> read on this group is representative.
>> I hear of people not in work in the USA who have no health insurance and
>> need medication relying on their doctors to give them sample meds from
> drug
>> representatives otherwise go without.
>> That's disgusting. Appalling. Shaming for those who let it happen.
>>
>> Here in the UK, people in work pay (mine is $100+ per month) toward their
>> medical care and if they ever need sick pay etc.
>>
>> Those who are in more unfortunate circumstances and unable to pay in
> through
>> low income still get free healthcare. That's how it should be, IMO.
>> Tweed
>
> Well, I see problems with *both* systems...
>
> According to your own accounts you've had problems with not getting proper
> pain management during recovery from major surgery.

That's true. The pain management was rubbish.


You've also said you
> have long, long waits to get an appointment to see a doctor

In the main, that's true also. But if I really insisted it was an emergency
they are obliged to see me the same day.


and long, long
> waits in waiting rooms to get emergency treatment (requiring you to get
> medical advice from a pharmacist).

It's an idea that my doctors have decided upon to protect them from patients
who can easily self-medicate from the pharmacy and get well without
bothering the doctor.
I would not be denied an appointment with my doctor if I thought it was
really necessary. My doctor saved my life in April by admitting me to
hospital within half an hour of seeing him.
My knee problem seems to be responding to the pharmacist's advice.


> Helen is having a problem finding a
> dentist who will treat her humanely.

Yes. I can sympathasise with this.
>
> Over on this side of the pond there are problems with low-income families
> not having the same standard of medical and dental care as wealthier
> people
> (although we do have Medi-care and Medi-caid to provide for those people).
> [Actually it's probably more problematic for middle-income people who
> don't
> qualify for either of those publicly-funded programs, but still can't
> afford
> huge insurance premiums or uncovered procedures.] And publicly-funded
> hospitals here are legally required to treat patients who can not afford
> to
> pay.
>
> Given a choice between the two, however, I think I'd take competent and
> skilled (and painless!!!) medical treatment over free medical treatment.

Are you suggesting that free medical treatment is inferior in the competent,
skilled and painless department??

Tweed




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