Re: OT ~ Top Canada Doc: "(our) ...System Is Imploding."

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:38:31 -0500, Lone Haranguer wrote:

LK wrote:
On Aug 17, 8:00 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
LK wrote:
On Aug 17, 6:32 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
LK wrote:
On Aug 17, 5:46 pm, "Bruce S" <bruce.sn...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
LK wrote:
Dropping all the public health care option is a disservice to the
poor. You've never watched people suffer without private
insurance.
The only reason poor people in this country would ever have to be
uninsured is because they are too lazy to sign up for it. Poor
people are covered by Medicaid in every state.
Bruce
..........and Medicare - but there IS a Limit on cost of care.
Their SS checks combined do not cover their needed cost anymore.
If you believe differently, that's fine. You've never seen them or
else you saw them and ignored them. If you travel at all, you
can't miss them. LK
So what are those limits? Where are they written so I can look them
up? Nursing homes are full of people whose full care is being paid
by Medicaid....in fact I understand that nursing homes take the
biggest bite out of Medicaid funding. At least in MN.
LZ
You have to check with your state. Fees are negotiated by state.
So which states don't pay nursing home costs for those on Medicaid and
found by Social Services to need nursing home care?

None of the people I see regularly are in a nursing home, they are
living in RVs and I help them as much as I can.
If they are living in RVs then State Social Services has not found
them helpless enough to require nursing home care. LZ


They are living in a single wide trailer in the same RV park they've
lived in for the past 8 years beginning in their travel trailer which
dry rotted too bad and began leaking last August in a rainstorm. They
refused nursing home care because he said he wasn't living in a
beehive, so she just followed his lead. He is her husband and she
believes his final word is in both of their best interests.

Living in a nursing home until you die is a choice.

Not always true. Social Services often makes the decision for elderly
people who wish to live in their homes but for some reason are at risk
if they do. You either have to retain a certain degree of mobility to
care for yourself or have a responsible person who agrees (in writing)
to
be responsible. Esposa has two aunts who are in that category right
now.

Some people do
not choose that option because of their love of their own freedom and
their garden and flowers and the ability to create goodness in others
around them in a place where other people who are visiting all the time
make them happy. And they couldn't finish raising their 17 year old
grandson if they live in a nursing home either.

If necessary, Social Services will take care of that chore also. LZ

Here, LZ, maybe this will help:

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba566

Fair use quotation:

Medicaid is a joint federal-state health care program, primarily for the
poor. At the federal level, Medicaid is an entitlement, implying that
each enrollee has a right to benefits, regardless of the state in which
he or she resides. However, federal funds are not distributed equally.
Each state budgets its own Medicaid spending, but receives federal funds
based on a matching formula. Wealthy states that spend more on Medicaid
receive more federal funds, while poor states, which tend to have larger
poverty populations, receive less.

Every state program is different. For various reasons, Daisy and I have a
primary residence in NC but are not married and don't commingle funds. She
qualifies for Medicaid under the NC program but since I'm still earning
money with my consulting work, I do not. However, since I do provide some
support for her, if she actually made claims under Medicaid, her benefit
could be reduced to an extent proportional to the amount of support I
provide. At this point it's simpler for me to subsidize her getting a
Medicare Advantage policy instead of going through all the Medicaid
reporting nonsense.

Regards, John Kinney







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