OT- The Republican Disease - A different perspective

Mike Hendrix wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:52:09 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linuszrv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mike Hendrix wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:08:26 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linuszrv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mike Hendrix wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:27:06 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linuszrv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mike Hendrix wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:33:39 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linuszrv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Our oldest daughter teaches. She will teach first grade only and because parents appreciate her approach and her success, she
can now safely ignore the union pressure to be mediocre.
LZ
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Linus, it is totally amazing that the only competent teacher (in your
opinion) happens to be your daughter.
She's the only one I know well and the only one I get reports on from parents of her students.
Ahhh! Well that certainly makes you an expert. One has to wonder if
that qualifies you for a doctorate in that field.
Probably.
I bet she is the exception to the rule, eh!
100% of her first grade students learn how to read. She considers that her main task.
Does she teach in an inter city school?
Does she live there?
Who has a clue where she lives?
Everyone on RORT since I have mentioned countless times that 3 of our 4 children live on our old 80 acre farm, all within a couple of hundred yards of our parking spot.

Sweet Jesus Linus, do you really think "Everyone on RORT" reads ALL
your drivel -----

Like any other information source....it's there for you to gain knowledge from. Not my fault you don't take advantage of it.
If this is your lifelong habit, this could explain a lot.

Damn, man that would be a 24/7 undertaking.

Only for slow readers. I read or at least scan every post on RORT.

So you
children all live on an 80-acre farm.

All but one.

They, like you, must all be
really versed in all the problems a school system consisting of inner
city children must have. Certainly they have all the solutions
------- all from the 80-acre farm.

My children have attended schools in suburbs of Detroit, Rantoul, IL, the Twin Cities of Mpls-St. Paul, Clearfield, UT, 3 different military bases overseas and
locally. They know far more about different schools than you ever will.
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The only one who doesn't is the younger son who has no children.

What is the percentage of
children in her class that are hispanic/african descent?

Are you one of those liberal racists who automatically assumes that black kids don't do as well in school as whites?
Failure to answer is assumed to be a yes.
This year she had 2 out of a class of 26. They did as well as any others.
Oh Boy! 2 out of 26. Now that is a challenge. If you want to jump
up and down with glee she needs to try 20 out of 26. She needs about
10 of those 20 to have moms who are crack heads with no known father.
Why would that be her problem? Those moms are a result of Democratic legislation like AFDC which paid women to have children out of wedlock.
The liberals who passed it forgot the law of unintended consequences and now refuse to take responsibility.

No one said it was her problem. You were just bragging on how well
she was able to make her students perform. I just wondered how
"great" she would be teaching some of those "probably-uneducationable"
inner city children.

They are only unable to be educated in the liberal mind. When they come into her class, you think they take a magic potion that suddenly changes
their ability to be educated? To her they are raw material that can be challenged to learn a new skill.

Looks to me like she is in an ideal situation.
Other teaches fail all the time in similar circumstances.

Some might but the majority do a good job with students like that.

You sound like Al Sharpton, only able to make excuses instead of placing the fault where it belongs. Parents and the students themselves.

How many of
her students come from families that do not speak English?

Not sure if it is 3 or 4 this year but she has several. They require more time but they are eager to learn the English words so they can teach their parents.
You bet they need more help. 3 or 4 out of 26, she needs to try 20
out of 26. Then we can discuss wonderful.
We don't live on the Mexican border.

You do not have to live on the Mexican border for that to occur.
Inner cities are blessed with it, so are many regions of the country.

Schools get extra money for extra bilingual teachers when they have a high percentage of non-English speaking students.
I suggest you look into what they are doing with it.

To me it sounds like you are searching for excuses again.....the standard liberal drivel when they have thrown truckloads of money at a problem and
have no results to show.

She must be good looking, smart as hell, dedicated and heaven knows
what else -------- at least in your mind.
All 3. Not only in my mind. Take a poll of the parents who can rest easy that their kid can read when he leaves first grade. Last year she had every kid in
her class reading by Christmas. Better see what you local schools are doing.
We have all kinds of local schools in our county. Inter city schools
do poorly while those in the affluent neighborhoods do very well. I
suspect that is a reality throughout the country.
The correct term is "inner city".
Linus you are right about inner city. I wrote it first then changed
it. Shouldn't have changed it. VBG


Many inner city schools spend more per student than the school she teaches at. Also those below a certain income level qualify for the Head Start program. If kids don't do well in school, look to the parents.
We have agreement there. Some parents do not have phones and some do
not give a damn. If her students have parents that give a rip then
she is one lucky teacher. Many teachers in inner city schools do not
have situations like that.


Our daughter is not shy about calling the parents if she thinks they need to be involved. That is encouraged in MN but not all teachers expend the extra time and effort.
As far as I know calling parents is encouraged in all school
districts. Calling and getting help are two different things. Having
26 students and having 35 students will made a difference also.
We tax ourselves pretty heavily to make that difference instead of spending the money on cigarettes, lottery tickets, booze, dope, $200 tennis shoes and the latest fashions.

Makes me wonder why the world isn't flocking to Minnesota.

Some can't take the winters. However we do have large colonies of immigrants that are here just because it is one of the most generous states for freebies.
Even Hmong and Somalis who come from mild climates.

In the
above paragraph you are praising Minnesota and their tax system yet
you constantly bitch about the politicians from Minnesota that put
that in place. Ya can't have it both ways. Are taxes good or bad?

Taxes for schools are good if the money is not wasted. I don't believe a property tax is the equitable way to pay for schools though.
It would make more sense for a family tax based on how many people a family has to educate. Taxing people to carry freeloaders was not the intent of our Founding Fathers.


The rest of them sorry teachers must all be Democrats sucking off the
government tit. All except that one.
A lot of them are. She tolerates the union but wouldn't allow them to push her around. She was a dental assistant for 18 years before she switched careers.
Oh, she got tired of working for a living?
It was a lot easier and paid better than teaching.
Well that makes sense. She quit that job because teaching would be
harder and pay less money. Now that sounds like something you would
do.
She was great at putting children at ease in the dentist's office where most kids have fits. Then she taught a Sunday school class and found that she had a knack for teaching. Her children were in high school & college so she went back to school. She had a calling where she thought she could make a difference.

Ahhhhhh, she had a calling. Ya rekon it is that same voice you hear
in the night?

Smart people choose fields they are good at and which give them personal satisfaction. It's the key to a good life.

I've turned down many offers of jobs that paid more than I was making at the time.


Some people have that, others never get it.

Most people seek professional help when that voice you hear starts
conversations with you.

You must be speaking from personal experience.>

I guess your call was bean-counting although it doesn't sound like you really cared for the job. We all have our niche in society. The lucky ones enjoy what they do.

Hey Linus we have agreement. VBG

Out of the 30-years I worked for the government (DOD), I had some good
jobs, really good jobs, and I had one really, really bad job. Life
isn't 100% a bowl of cherries.

When a job got to the point where I didn't look forward to going to work, I would get a different job. Life is short.
LZ

mike
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