Re: Acronis Plop-in Clone Success with Vista 64



On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:16:46 -0500, Neon John <no@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:53:08 -0600, Bob Giddings <bobg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Vista was not fooled, exactly. After starting up, it identified
the new drive as different from the first (although they are the
same brand, capacity, and part #), installed it as new hardware,
and asked that I reboot for "settings to take effect".

The first reboot seemed to take a little longer than usual, but
no more instructions appeared. Vista seemed completely
comfortable with the new drive. So I rebooted again. This time
went much faster.

Bob,

Before you declare success, do some more research. Seems to me like I
remember reading somewhere that Vista has a counter in the "security" system
that allows a few drive changeouts to accommodate failure but that there is a
limit. If my memory is correct, this number is low, in the single digits.

This memory is fuzzy so don't take it to the bank without researching but
something is tickling the back of my memory banks about this. If my memory is
right then the first few clones will work but the Nth clone won't.

John


Well, I've been reading a lot about commercial cloning software.
Lots of people have lots of trouble with Acronis, weird stuff,
often leading to wiping the disk and starting over, or sudden
inability to boot into Windows, etc. No particular pattern,
stuff that works for one person fails disastrously for another.

The same things are reported with Ghost. Lots of different
problems, often serious. Sort of randomly. The most insidious
are when it says it has backed up and hasn't. And then there's
the famous Black Screen of Death.

What I gather is that Backup Imaging software in general is prone
to conflicts with other software, and the more other software you
have the more likely you are to have problems. And IF you have
problems they are likely to be serious. You can't screw around
with partitions without at least the potential for catastrophe.

This stuff is apparently written without much regard to
conflicts. As though it were going to be used only in a pristine
Windows environment. And there is universal censure for their
customer support. Norton as well.

I think the smart thing to do, if you have Vista, is to use
Windows Backup and Restore for backup. It works in much the same
way as Acronis, and is more likely to have been heavily tested.

Use Acronis only for what the Windows program won't do: cloning.
It works for me. There's lots of other choices for XP, but the
field narrows substantially when you get to Vista 64 bit. For
now.

I did find that the most expensive way to buy it is by
downloading it from the manufacturer web site. Amazon has it all
the time for ten bucks off the retail package. There's probably
even better deals out there.

But Amazon at $38 sounds pretty good. My time is worth
something.

Bob

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