Re: OT: Election outcome question re little kids




"Bob Giddings" <bobg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:25:27 -0700, "Owen McKenzie"
<jomckenzie@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Carl A. in FL wrote:

I agree that Republicans must go back to being conservative.

I don't agree that they failed because they became pro-business. An
economy liberated from undue government interference will prosper,
provide employment, and create wealth.

Repubs failed because the leaders became dishonest. While Dems are
comfortable with graft and sleaze (Obama and Reid being prime
examples) the Republican base isn't. People like Cunningham, DeLay
and Abramoff hurt us more than Obama.

We need a party that stands for honesty, integrity, free enterprise,
individual responsibility, and minimal interference with business, the
economy, and our lives.

I agree with this with one possible exception. I understood pro-business
by
Nate's post to mean actively pro, with subsidies etc. I believe we should
not interfer in business at all, beyond the bare necessities for safety,
etc.

Etc? What the hell is etc?

How's all that non interference working out for you over the last
12 months?

Are you really so uninformed (or is it brainwashed) that you believe that
any business in this country operates without constant government
interference, every day, regarding every aspect of their business?

Yesterday, I read this great piece about the myth of Laissez Faire and it's
responsibility for the financial crisis. Just a couple paragraphs:

"There are presently fifteen federal cabinet departments, nine of which
exist for the very purpose of respectively interfering with housing,
transportation, healthcare, education, energy, mining, agriculture, labor,
and commerce, and virtually all of which nowadays routinely ride roughshod
over one or more important aspects of the economic freedom of the
individual. Under laissez faire capitalism, eleven of the fifteen cabinet
departments would cease to exist and only the departments of justice,
defense, state, and treasury would remain. Within those departments,
moreover, further reductions would be made, such as the abolition of the IRS
in the Treasury Department and the Antitrust Division in the Department of
Justice.

The economic interference of today's cabinet departments is reinforced and
amplified by more than one hundred federal agencies and commissions, the
most well-known of which include, besides the IRS, the FRB and FDIC, the FBI
and CIA, the EPA, FDA, SEC, CFTC, NLRB, FTC, FCC, FERC, FEMA, FAA, CAA, INS,
OHSA, CPSC, NHTSA, EEOC, BATF, DEA, NIH, and NASA. Under laissez-faire
capitalism, all such agencies and commissions would be done away with, with
the exception of the FBI, which would be reduced to the legitimate functions
of counterespionage and combating crimes against person or property that
take place across state lines.

To complete this catalog of government interference and its trampling of any
vestige of laissez faire, as of the end of 2007, the last full year for
which data are available, theFederal Register contained fully seventy-three
thousand pages of detailed government regulations. This is an increase of
more than ten thousand pages since 1978, the very years during which our
system, according to one of The New York Times articles quoted above, has
been "tilted in favor of business deregulation and against new rules." Under
laissez-faire capitalism, there would be no Federal Register. The activities
of the remaining government departments and their subdivisions would be
controlled exclusively by duly enacted legislation, not the rule-making of
unelected government officials."

While I know that you won't read the whole article, and you couldn't
understand it if you did read it, here is the link:

http://georgereisman.com/blog/2008/10/myth-that-laissez-faire-is-responsible.html

Bruce



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