Re: sarah palin
- From: "Dan Listermann" <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:16:03 -0400
"Owen McKenzie" <jomckenzie@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bruce S wrote:
"Max" <thesameoldme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
I understand your position completely. I understand your logic.
I have no objection to your beliefs.
I am, perhaps, a bit more cynical. I'm aware of too many
consequences of births that should never have happened.
I realize that the pregnancy is what should never have happened but
you can't put the baby back.
I have been exposed to experiences you might not even believe.
I have seen suffering that I doubt my own ability to endure.
In an ideal world every human would have an equal chance to thrive.
Every baby born to an unwelcome environment would have a place to
flourish. Every baby born with a terminal illness would have a
palliative. But this is not an ideal world and I recognize that.
That recognition colors my philosophy.
Max
The problem I have with your position is that if you can accept the
destruction of a group of cells, which we may later find out is, in
fact, a person, then that leaves no moral distinction between that
killing and killing other babies (post term abortion?) who should
never have been conceived.
When you acknowledge that that cluster of cells might very well be a
person, but you agree to kill it anyway, where do you finally draw
the line - is it now ok to kill all inconvenient, or disadvantaged,
or suffering people? Can a mother of a two year old change her mind
and decide she really didn't want it, so she has its brains sucked
out?
As I said, once you accept that those cells might be human, you are
forced to treat them exactly as you would treat any other human on
the planet.
Bruce
--
"Born Without a Chance"
by Edmund Vance Cooke (p. 590)
A squalid village set in wintry mud.
. . . A horseman hails and halts, He shifts his cud and speaks:
"Well, did you hear? Tom Lincoln's wife today.
The devil's luck for folk as poor as they!
Poor Tom! poor Nance! Poor youngun born without a chance!
"A baby in that Godforsaken den, That worse than cattle pen!
. . . Another squawking, squalling, red-faced good-for-naught
Spilled on the world, heaven only knows for what.
. . . . [Jefferson] would have it that this Lincoln cub might be
Of even value in the world with you and me!
Yes, Jefferson, Tom Jefferson, who but he?
Who even hints that black men should be free.
A president might lie in this new baby!
In this new squawker born without a rag to hide himself!
Good God, it makes me gag! This human spawn
Born for the world to wipe its feet upon
A few more years hence, but now more helpless than the litter of a sow,
And - Oh, well! send the women folks to see to Nance.
Poor little devil! Born without a chance!
Owen McKenzie
Later there was Herr und Frau Hitler . . . . It swings both ways.
.
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