Re: OT - Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh [was: Weather check]

While it's certainly not "fair" to beat up on the ignorant, this is gonna be
fun anyway...(:-o)!

"John A. Weeks III" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote and wrote and wrote more
stupidity than anyone should have to read in any given day.....
news:john-C2794D.09412127042008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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We can try that as a mental experiment. The earth gets warming
Yes. We could. Sadly, we've already determined that you are singularly
unequipped for such a task...so what would be the point?

from (4) sources. The major source is nuclear heat from the
No one knows how much of our temperature is derived from nuclear decay. And
yet you, you alone, have figured out that it's a "major source" of planetary
heating? Given that the best scientists on the planet haven't been able to
figure this out, pray-tell, how did you do this??

cooling of the planet. The second is the background heat of
the universe.
An insignificant amount approaching absolute zero. To even consider this as
"heat" is so far off the beaten path that you have no direction...

The third is sunlight.
That's certainly true. But your description is so simplistic as to defy
understanding. What you call "sunlight" is really radiant, broad-spectrum
energy. The disk, in space, that represents the earth, gets insolation from
the sun. About 1.69339E+17 watt-seconds for every second of the day, all
year long. I don't know what fraction of a degree of the sky the earth
subtends from the POV of the sun, but I'd suspect that it's rather small.
So a lot of the sun's "energy" gets "wasted" in space heating other planets
and things...

The fourth is global
warming.
Wrong! What you must mean is the "green-house" effect. The ability of the
atmosphere to alter the wavelength (by deceleration) of shorter wave visible
light radiation to longer-wave infra-red radiation.

The background heat of the universe would probably keep the
earth about 4 or 5 degrees above absolute zero. That is not
much help, and likely not something that humans could work
around.
Yet you had to mention it as if it were important. Sad, that...

The cooling of the earth does have a major effect. That would
keep the planet at about -100 degrees. That would result in
the surface being an iceball, but a limited few hardy people
could probably find a way to live through that.
What? Nothing but ignorant techno-babble in this paragraph.

Sunlight adds about 100 degrees, plus or minus. This would
Nobody knows that. "Sunlight" by itself adds nothing. Only that energy
that's trapped by the atmosphere adds any heat. The amount of heat trapped
depends upon how much is re-radiated back into space (it's called black-body
radiation). On clear night, much is lost. Call in a few clouds, and much
can be trapped...

bring our planet up to the point where it would be mostly
tundra. It wouldn't thaw, except maybe near the equator
during the hottest days of summer.
More pointless techno-babble. I guess it's an attempt to make you sound as
if you knew something. Endless recitations here have already shown that you
don't...

Finally, global warming brings us up to the rest of the temperature
that we see today, which is anywhere from -50 to +120. Global
warming is the atmosphere holding in the heat that is radiated
to the earth by the sun and from the earth by internal warming.
Global warming is a fact, and without it, we would be an iceball.
Your streak of being wrong continues unbroken. This is total bull*** with
no redeeming value. "Global warming" doesn't hold in heat, the green-house
effect does that. As usual, you're filled with garbage as if it were
knowledge.

If the sun were to go out, we would see a gradual cooling as the
heat due to global warming bleeds off. We would see much of the
interior freeze within 2 weeks, and the costs shortly after that
Pure conjecture. Neither you nor anyone else living as the slightest clue
as to what will happen. I also happen to know that you have no handy
examples to point to, to bolster your case. So, in effect, you have
absolutely NOTHING!

(they get the benefit of heat from the water). The seas would
stay warm for a little while longer. Humans could still survive
by moving underground. You don't have to dig that deep to find
the earth heated to a constant 70 degrees. The problem would
You'll need to show me that place. And if the sun were to go "out", it
wouldn't matter how deep you dug. No fresh carrots & stuff and ol' John-boy
would become history in a matter of weeks...

be adapting our food sources to grow underground, and tapping
into geothermal energy.
Yeah. Right. A wonderful pipe-dream, that...

The real question isn't if global warming exists or not. It does,
and it is established as a fact for over 100 years, and it is not
Wrong again! What's been proven to exist is that this planet undergoes
constant climate change. And nothing that you or your cadre of idiots has
been able to do or dream up is gonna change that...

in dispute in the scientific community. The item that is in
dispute is if humans have effected global warming by putting
carbon into the atmosphere.
And that's an easy one to disprove. Just look at "little al's" movie and
note the temperature vs. CO2 chart. It CLEARLY shows that CO2 amounts track
temperatures by some 3-8 centuries delayed. And that little 'factoid' just
blows the slats right outta your grand "man's carbon emissions are the cause
of increased CO2" theory, doesn't it?

If 'stupid' were a product, you'd have a lock on that commodity....


L8r phewl,
Dusty
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