Re: LOC trucking photo

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:02:48 -0500, hchickpea@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:03:55 -0500, Neon John <no@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm loving these old Kodachrome slides with their high color fidelity. In this one,
for instance, it reminds me that they DID use rust-red paint on almost everything
back then.

Nit pick point- the film is positive *** film. You can tell by the
notches in it, which are used to guide photographers having to handle
it in the absolute darkness required for loading it into holders and
developing it. Interesting photos, though.

Actually, you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about. To everyone else,
pardon my harsh tone but this kind of crap is what discourages people from
contributing anything of substance. I'm fed up to my gills with this kind of
chickeh*** on Usenet, particularly in this group.

Your first clue would have been to go back to the root page for the photograph. The
url is at the bottom of the page I referenced.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/2179185544/

You'll note where it says "Format: Transparencies--Color" and "1942 Dec.". That's
all you really needed to know.

But! You were too lazy to look because you were in a hurry to nitpick and you
thought you knew something about notch codes. You don't. Kodak was anything but
consistent with their use of notch codes. Worse, they reused them for different
types of film over the years. ONLY if you knew the year of manufacture could you be
fairly certain of knowing what a particular notch code meant. All you really know
without more information is that the notch code helps orient the film in the holder
and locate the emulsion side.

For the time period in question, 1942, that notch code represented Film code 6137,
Kodachrome Daylight. If you'd bothered to do something as trivial as googling before
you posted, you'd have found this document.

http://library.louisville.edu/library/ekstrom/special/AcetateNegativeSurvey.pdf

This is probably the most comprehensive documents regarding notch codes on the net.
Every other place I looked points back to it. You'll notice that in Appendix B, it
lists literally hundreds of emulsions that used and reused about 100 notch codes.
Even the authors of this list don't consider it comprehensive. BTW, the code for the
slide in question is #14C. I didn't particularly need that document, as I have my
father's 1945 Kodak Photography Handbook but the PDF is easier to reference here.

When we get right down to it, nothing more was needed other than the Library of
Congress's notation about it being a 1942 transparency. That narrows it down to
Kodachrome. The LOC, after all, does know what it's doing in this area, certainly
more than some dip hiding behind a nym.

Oh, and for anyone keeping track, Wikipedia blew it again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notch_code

I wonder if the Wikipedians ever heard of Google?

John
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