Re: You "own" your RV site? Really?




"Dean" <roamer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:6ccem3prfjf72q3e8v1u5ilgftsfhfpir7@xxxxxxxxxx
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:34:55 -0800, "Nate"
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:39:39 GMT, "Nate"
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"Will Sill" <will@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Comment or ignore, as you choose:

The issue of ownership of land strikes to the very core of human
occupation of the planet. Ownership has never been absolute. In
ancient Israel God Himself put limits on it in various ways. Even the
eternal grant of Canaan's land was conditional. A simpler example was
the requirement that the poor were to be permitted to glean leftover
grain from the owners' fields.

In modern times, all governments retain the right to dictate how a
landowner may or may not utilize property. Varying from one
nation/state to another, overlapping and restrictive regulations lead
some to conclude (with justification) that property ownership is a
myth - that owners are mere tenants who pay 'rents' (taxes) to the
government and get ejected if they don't comply with the landlord's
rules. Obviously some jurisdictions are more officious and
restrictive than others, but a wise man must sooner or later realize
that whatever "ownership" does mean in the context of real estate, it
does NOT mean you have unrestricted rights to do what you like with
it. Only nut-fringe anarchist/libertarian types claim to believe
government should have no say whatever, and of course
socialist/liberal statists think ALL use of land must be regulated.
The degree of government control over citizen use of land deeded to
him is an important measure of human freedom.

Will Sill
The self-appointed Curmudgeon of Sill Hill

Lezz-see;

I own my gun, but am not allowed to run around shooting inside city limits
at will. It's use is regulated, therefore I don't really own it.

I own my car, but I can't drive at any speed I like. It's use is
regulated,
therefore, I don't really own it.

I own a kitchen knife, but I am not allowed to stab other people with it.
It's use is regulated, therefore I don't really own it?

Regulations are a part of living in a society. We need rules to be called
'civilized'. It's just a part of the package. You may not like being
told
you can't do things with your property. You have choices. You can leave
our society (maybe you already did this) and find a society that agrees
with
you on how you should be allowed to use your land. Or you can join the
society and enjoy it's benefits. Or you can sit on your hill, dig your
heels in, and have yourself a good old fashion cry.

I predict that you are either bored or paranoid to have these sorts of
thoughts.

Nate

Nate, I think you were missing the points he was trying to make. It
was a reasonable dissertation on property ownership. He's not really
saying anything different than you are. I know that when Will writes
something it's kind of a knee jerk reaction to holler BS, I do it too.
But in this case it was well written and accurate.

Tom

It's not a knee jerk reaction at all. I don't do that just because Will
wrote something. There's a lot of stuff Will writes that I agree with, and
even more that I simply ignore. Why can't I simply respond to Will as
though he were not the infamous Will Sill of RORT? Does he have that much
importance?

Nate

Do you?



Did someone claim I did? Are we going to ask stupid questions back and forth till one of us gives now?

Does anyone really believe that we should have a society with no rules? Just trying to bring this back on topic.

Nate

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