Re: OT who said this ?



Bruce S wrote:
"Robert Allison" <rimshot27@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
We still have farm subsidies and not because of crop shortages. Too much goes to huge corporations. It's political. I'd cap it at $150K or so. I favor some subsidy because I would hate to see someone like George Soros have total control of the food supply.
But taking money from people at gunpoint and giving it to a special group is socialism! Are you a socialist?

For the record, on the subject of farm subsidies, I believe that LZ is wrong. He has been wrong every time the subject has come up, and he is still wrong. Theft from one person or group of people to the benefit of another person or group of people is wrong every time. The ends never justifies the means - I don't care if every family farm in the country goes out of business, only to be bought up by large agribusiness companies. It is no more the government's business to save small farms than it is to save mom and pop grocery stores.

Bruce



At least I'm honest and identify it as a vote-buying scheme.

I know that corporate farms have absolutely no interest in how their
operations affect neighbors, the aquifer they pump from, the runoff of chemicals and animal waste and other social and environmental concerns.

For that reason I support subsidies to small farms, NOT corporate giants who don't need the money to stay in business.
LZ
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