Re: OT - Re: Where is should have been from the start Re: Bait And Switch




"Ben H" <benhogland@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:5g9id9F3fipndU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Ben H wrote:


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Ben H wrote:



Yeah, now if he'd only use it for good rather than evil.. ;-)


Like most on the left, Ben seems to think it's honorable to support the terrorists, and evil to fight them.


No-one is supporting the enemy except maybe Bush. If we could just get Bush to fight the real enemy. You now, al-Qaida. Remember them? They are the ones that attacked us on 9/11/2001. Did you hear they are just as strong today as they were before 9/11 Lon? Eh? Who's fooling who here?

ben


So what is your plan to fight Al Qaeda, Ben? Where do we go to do this fighting? Who do we fight? You do realize this group has no nation...no soil of their own...right? How do you propose we go about this war? And how is your plan better than the plan Bush has? Bush and his war generals plan to be fighting this war for 30 or more years. What's your timeline...and support how you plan to accomplish this timeline and where it will be accomplished.


Well, letting them have safe harbor in Pakistan is kind of ridiculous in my opinion. That just gives them a chance to grow like they have. We could be fighting them for century's at this rate. My plan would be to give them no safe harbors and that could happen by either diplomacy or by force or a combination thereof. It's ridiculous for us to be fighting in Iraq when our enemy is safe away from any fighting in Pakistan. The Iraqi people are not our enemy and they never have been! It was a HUGE mistake costing us trillions.

Ben

Pakistan has nukes, Ben. You think they wouldn't use them if we invaded their country?


No *** Sherlock.. I didn't say it would be easy. What's the point of fighting in Iraq when the enemy is in Pakistan? As I said, Dumbass, give them no safe harbors either diplomacy or by force or a combination thereof. The way it is working now is akin to the cops getting your neighbor because they are after you!

Ben

In order to give them no safe harbors, we would have to conquer the world. Once we do that we would be bound by our constitution to separate church and state. we would have to allow them their religious beliefs. Allowing their religious beliefs allows them to practice what they are already practicing.

Try again. Give us a plan that will work. One that is better than the current plan.

Nate

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