Re: Another fire story.




"Robert Maas, see http://tinyurl.com/uh3t"; <rem642b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:rem-2007may02-002@xxxxxxxxxxxx
From: "Calif Bill" <bmckees...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Gas truck crashed and burned in the Macarthur maze on I-80 this
morning in Oakland.

It wasn't carrying any gas. It was carrying gasoline (petrol),
which is a liquid not a gas.

The busiest freeway interchange in the world.

That part might be correct.

I-80, I-580, and I-880 merging together.

No, those three freeways *interconnecting*. Merging is what two
lanes do when they combine to form just one lane.

Part of interchange collapsed.

Correct.

San Francisco to Berkekey is the only direction open.

Grossly wrong. Only two (2) ramps, one of which serves two
directions shortly afterward, are closed, the one (1) which had
part collapse which serves BayBridge to both 580 and 24, and the
other one (1) onto which the collapse fell which serves Berkeley to
Alameda. There were a dozen ramps which served over a dozen
different directions of travel in that maze.

The following directions head into the maze:
-A- From San Francisco via BayBridge (eastbound I-80)
-B- From Berkeley ("westbound" I-80, but actually heading southward for
previous 20 miles after heading westward from Sacramento)
-CD- From downtown Oakland (westbound I-580), which gets a lot of
traffic via Cal-24 from the Caldicott tunnel
-E- From San Jose via Alameda (northbound I-880, originally Cal-17)

The following directions head out from the maze:
-a- Across the BayBridge (westbound I-80) to San Francisco
-b- Toward Berkeley ("eastbound" I-80, but actually heading nortward
for next 20 miles before turning eastward toward Sacramento)
-cd- Toward downtown Oakland (eastbound I-580), which feeds a lot of
traffic to Cal-24 heading toward the Caldicott tunnel
-e- Past Alemeda toward San Jose (southbound I-880, originally Cal-17)

(Also note: I-80 was originally US-40.)

All the following directions of travel are still open:
A->b A->d (A->cd is closed because it includes the collapsed section)
B->a B->cd (B->d is closed because the collapsed section fell onto it)
CD->a CD->b CD->d
E->a E->b E->cd
So that's ten local directions open, fifteen global directions open.
Only 2 local directions, 3 global directions, closed.

Wonder how long this will take to rebuild.

The debris has already been cleared off yesterday. I haven't yet
heard the results of testing the B->d ramp, nothing on TV about it
currently, but just as I was typing that KCBS gave a teaser that
there may be good news about the 880 ramp, stand by at 11:09 PDT as
they leave a cliffhanger doing traffic and weather and commercial
ad for whole enchilada from a company whose customers have been
flooding me with spam ... 11:11 core samples taken (I-880 ramp,
B->d), results good, and girders were bent from heat but not broken
so maybe they can be just straightened instead of replaced. But
estimate is currently 9 million dollars cost for rebuilding the
I-580 ramp (A->cd). I personally guess less than one month for
I-880 ramp, more than three months for I-580 ramp.

Is next to the Cypress Freeway that fell down in the 1989
earthquake and the decisions on that took years to decide.

No, not next to, rather consecutively along the I-880 route.

11:23 new report on KCBS, that particular vehicle got cited for
violations in 13 out of 14 safety checks, the most recent being
something wrong with brakes. So maybe the accident wasn't entirely
the driver's fault. I suspect (and hope) the 9-million-dollar
lawsuit to cover damages will hit the stockholders pretty badly.

And so the stockholders get hit? Then the corporation raises prices to get
back the money plus 10%. Cost of business. Actually it was carrying
Naptha. And most of the USA calls it a gas tanker truck. Short for
Gasoline. Same as you go to a Gas station? And the "interconnecting"
freeways, merge 4 lanes to 3 and then those 3 split at the 880 / 580 part of
the maze to make 2 lanes going on 580 East and 1 going to 880. Brings back
memories of the overpass into SFO that burned in the 1960's from another
tanker truck and the Powell Street overpass being knocked down during
construction by a drunk drive hitting the overpass in the evening after they
had finished pouring concrete. Causing the forms to split and the concrete
to flow out covering the interstate 80.


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