Re: OT- Charges dropped in Ramsey Case

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:04:33 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linusz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Al Balmer wrote:

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:49:41 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linusz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Al Balmer wrote:

So, all you know is that a particular post was traced. That makes you
an expert, and endows you with the certain knowledge that all emails
can be instantly traced to the sender. You don't even know enough to
know how ridiculous such a claim is.


Actually I know a lot more than that but in this case it was a post to a
newsgroup, not an e-mail and it was sent through a server that keeps its
posters anonymous (a university).


Uh, huh. The story changes. Not an email,

Here's the original post.

No, here's the original post:
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:23:11 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linusz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Al Balmer wrote:

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:11:48 -0500, Lone Haranguer
<linusz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


If he was interested in disappearing her wouldn't have sent 500 e-mails
to the kooky perfesser and confessed in detail.


He had already disappeared. He was corresponding with Tracey under an
assumed name, and wasn't located until five days before being brought
here. Previous attempts to locate him had failed. That included one
attempt in which Tracey persuaded him to call the Ramseys and they
(with the Ramseys cooperation, of course) tried to trace the call.
Apparently caller ID doesn't work reliably from Thailand.

500 e-mails is enough to track someone to an address.

Heh. Sure, after you subpoena the ISP in Thailand, assuming it hasn't
gone through a couple of remailers. Of course, it probably turns out
to be an internet cafe.

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Remember now? We were discussing your contention that Karr could have
easily been located through his emails. Tell you what - get your $10
superhero to identify just one of the anonymous remailers who post
propaganda here. If he can do that, I can get work for him.

<snip>

A good hacker gets in where he wants to. Are you saying that someone
with experience can't get a trace with 500 e-mails to work with?

Yes, if the emailer is trying to hide, especially in another country.

Have you ever owned a Hack Tracer?

There are several such programs. Some are free. One is built into the
paid version of Zonealarm. None are magic. Most believe what they're
told on a traceroute, which you can do yourself from the command line.
(On *nix systems - may not be available with XP Home.) Hack Tracer,
btw, is not considered one of the better ones.

If you can do this, you can track someone down for me and I'll give you
$10 per instance.

Are we in business?

At that price? I assume you're being ignorant, not deliberately
insulting.

IOW, you don't know how to do it? If you can, what IS your asking price
for a few seconds of work?

<G> Anyone with Google and a couple of minutes to spare can find
things like Hack Tracer. As for whether I know how to trace an out of
country email from someone who knows how to hide, no, I don't. Neither
does your $10 hacker. Or Hack Tracer.

As you probably remember, I've been on W-2 full time for a while now,
but when I was consulting, I didn't do "a few seconds of work." My
last demand rate (rate for short-term, unscheduled work) was $160/hr,
two hours minimum. That's relatively cheap, as consulting goes, and no
charge for travel time within 30 miles.

--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
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