Re: Towing 5th Wheel vs Travel Trailer
- From: William Boyd <williamboyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:46:36 -0500
Norman D. Crow wrote:
"William Boyd" <williamboyd@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:12ah1ejsajik24a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxWe did not work it that way. All of our tractors were leased and every thing better work as advertised. We owned the trailers, but as you would know the same tractor leasing company maintained our trailers. We also owned a blow mold company. shipping out plastic bottles on contract soft side trailers, with no load criteria requirements what so ever. Load capacity could be absorbed by the front tires alone of the tractor, so there was never any problems in shipping blow mold supplies.
Frank Tabor wrote:The Bridge Law doesn't have anything to do with the weight in the trailer. The only reason I remembered was one of our drivers got ticketed @ a NY State DOT check. He only had about 16K of new plastic bottles(full load) in a 53' trailer, but for some reason it was stretched all the way out, and he was ticketed for that.
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:00:50 -0400 "Norman D. Crow" <Ravens@xxxxxxxxxx>I don't think you have that stretch going in the right direction. If you have to much load on the rear axles of the trailer you stretch it out and move your king pin plate forward so as to allow more weight to be placed on the front tires of the tractor.
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In fact, some states won't let you run a 53' stretched to maximum.The Bridge Law won't allow you to run stretched out in any state.
This also moves some weight up to the duals on the tractor.
Of course so long as you do not have an overall excessive amount of weight. We called this dollying the load.
A bit from a truck drivers journal;
" So. With the beauty of the sunset fresh in our minds and stomachs clamoring for good, solid food, we land for the night at the Petro truck stop in southeast Amarillo. We weigh the truck (heavy on the trailer tandems, but we can crank them back to put more weight on the drive axles – we’ll handle that particular problem in the morning) and head inside for bathrooms, solid food, and showers."
Actually this journal is interesting to read. http://www.powerbear.com/otr.htm
If you've got a 53' loaded so heavy in the tail that you've got to stretch it to get "legal", then no one knew what they were doing when they loaded it! I've sneaked through PA scales a couple times when pulling a 48', grossing about 79,500, but had about 35K+ on drive tandems, not good. For the un-knowing, conventional limits are 12K steer, 34K drive, 34K trailer tandem, totaling 80K. Both times I picked up loads of "pulp" that were nose heavy and no way to get them reloaded. Had trailer tandems slid all the way forward, still couldn't get that extra 1K+ off the drive. PA scales on I80 had weight in motion scales, but flagged me over on platform. They could see I'd done everything I could to balance the load, and let me go. Sometimes they let you get lucky with extra 1 or 2K as long as you're under gross.
Powerbear tells a cute little story, and some of it is like that. They probably weren't too concerned about TX scales, but needed to get scaled up before crossing state lines. I'd also bet they weren't pulling a 53' trailer. You can still haul close to 45K in a 53', but they were designed to haul high bulk items like the bottles I spoke of. IIRC, a full load was 24 skids with layers of bottles over 8' high, nearly to trailer roof, but not that much weight. Their corn meal was probably bagged, 100lb bags, 25 bags+ per pallet around 3 to 4' high, and the pallets in the trailer 2,2,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,2 or some variation to spread it out.
Tom J, you mean you didn't have the newer style sliders(LOL)? We had some, worked great. Pull the pin handle, you're just loading a spring. The handle latches "out", then you go back to the cab, lock the trailer brakes and "jug" the trailer back & forth until you hear the spring pop the pins loose. Now slide it, then release the handle & "jug" it to let the pins back in. This, of course, providing the garage has kept the maintenance up to date & greased all the slider parts, otherwise you get out your BFH and pound the pins out of the holes(the same one you use to hammer the trailer brake drums when the shoes are frozen to the drums after running in snow & slush).
People ask me if I miss the road . . I miss taking a rig down the highway. I do NOT miss the hassles with bears, DOT, scales, idiot 4 wheelers, etc. etc.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
It was the syrup mixtures that could add up. We produced Pepsi, Sunkist, Squincher and many other brands of syrup concentrates. They were heavy load out pallets. For a while I managed the warehouse and shipping and receiving. Inventory and storage became quite a problem. The old syndrome of bringing you in to the flock of vice president in charge of production and distribution. Kiss my ass.
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