Re: OT-What's With Our Law Enforcement Officers?


"Al Balmer" <albalmer@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:35:36 -0700, "Technobarbarian"
<Technobarbarian-ztopzpam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

LOL, assuming your number is correct, what do you think would happen
when they "bring them in". Do they wave their magic wand over them and
magically send them back to where they came from? You're talking about a
good sized city's worth of people every month. This is over 22,000 people
every day who would have to be locked up and transported, not to mention
taking care of their legal rights.

Nah, their "legal rights" are in their country of origin (or Mexico if
the Mexican government wants to take it on), and can wait until
they're back home. The transport is no problem - they'll fit nicely in
a couple hundred trucks, which is a small part of the daily border
traffic.

That would work good in a police state, not so well here. We recently
deported a high profile illegal from California. She was a radio commentator
and one of the people organizing the pro-illegal rallies. She chose to stand
and fight. It took us 5 years. Even worst case scenario you have to have a
process to seperate the legal from the illegal.

I do have a friend we got rid of much quicker. A very intelligent and
well educated woman from Jordan who was her legally, after jumping through
all the proper hoops. Some of her extensive and rather idiotic family were
involved in Afganistan and Iraq--on the wrong side; but, she had no
involvement whatsoever. In fact she can't go back to Jordan because her
brothers married her off by proxy to a man she has never met. She stood and
fought too. But, under the Creppy Directive she got secret hearings and was
made to disappear by our democratic government. Fortunately for her she was
able to find a third host country to take her, where she's doing quite well.
Our loss.

Take the Mexicans as an example. Are you
just going to drop them at the border? As things currently stand they just
walk back across.

Radical idea - at the point where we take them across, we'll put some
people (call them Border Patrol) to stop them from just walking back.
If they want to come back, they'll have to pay the coyotes again.

Too funny, we're already doing that, and you've seen the results.

The Border Patrol is overwhelmed as it is. If these people
stay in Mexico it quickly becomes a humanitarian problem of major
proportions.

Call on the UN. They'll take care of them.

Right now with all of these people here Mexico has 25% severe
under-employment. This isn't American style under-employment with college
grads working at McDonalds. This is people who barely manage to scratch
out
a living. What do you think happens if you could drop hundreds of
thousands
of people in Mexico every month?

The same thing that would happen if they stayed there to begin with?
Do you think of the USA as a giant homeless shelter?

Here they work, in fact the vast majority of them had jobs before they
left Mexico. And no I do not see the USA as a big homeless shelter. On the
other hand we cannot disavow our responsibility in the problem.

The first few months finding illegals probably wouldn't be all that
hard, but still; do you see the FBI just going out and grabbing the first
brown skinned Spanish speaking person they find?

Of course not. I wouldn't even consider that. Why would you?

After that do they start
making sweeps of Latino areas to fill their quota? And don't forget: a
good
deal of our illegal immigrants are people who came here legally and
overstayed their visa. Toward the end of your cleansing does the FBI start
making house to house sweeps of Sun City? Do we begin presenting our
papers
at roadblocks?

Not necessary. You present papers when you get a job, apply for public
assistance, or take your head cold to the emergency room or free
clinic. The ones who don't have papers get free transportation out of
the country.

I do not understand why some people insist on trying to deal with
this
from the supply side. It won't work and it's obvious it won't work. The
only
way you'll ever get a handle on it is by going after the demand side.

Wrong. The only way is to go after both the supply and demand side.
That has to start with stopping the flood. If no more come across, we
can deal with those already here at our own pace.

And just how do you propose to do that? Are you going to build a magic
wall at the border? Are we going to put a chip under the skin of all the
people who get a visa, in case they overstay? Maybe we just seal the borders
and don't allow anyone in?

If the
jobs dry up the illegals either go home on their own or seek help getting
home.

Why? As long as people like you feel sorry for them, they'll just keep
feeding at the public teat, and do the occasional home invasion for
entertainment and extra cash.

And this is my favorite part. When I start poking holes in the anti's
BS they automatically assume I'm in favor of allowing lots of illegals to
enter the country and stay. Guess again, I'm just anti-BS of whatever
flavor.

And you're blowing more BS right here at the end too. By the time you
adjust for their age and economic status the illegal immigrants are no more
crime prone than the people who were born here. Their reliance on public
assistance is due to the fact that *we* have created a new defacto
underclass. Oddly it's our "compassionate" conversatives who seem to want to
perpetuate it.

TB


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