Re: OT,: Occupational safety

Max wrote:
> "Lon VanOstran" wrote
>> Bob Giddings wrote:
>
>>>> Anyone who dies in the act of producing anything, dies as they try
>>>> to make our lives better. The only thing which makes police and
>>>> fire worker different is that their families will be taken care of
>>>> better than most.
>>>>
>>>> Lon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to get your ass in a real fire, and see how deep you get
>>> before you peel off and throw your guts up.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> www.arcatapet.net/bobgiddings
>>
>> Were you forced at gun point to be a fire fighter?
>> Did I write something which isn't true?
>>
>> Lon
>
> You pulled my chain. How many lives have you been responsible for
> saving? No one forced me to be a firefighter either. I wanted to do
> something to pay back for having taken lives in Korea. The calling is
> one that wouldn't attract you anyway. You have to be generous of
> spirit, courageous, tenacious, dedicated, desire challenge, friendly,
> willing to work for wages far beneath your real value to a community,
> all qualities that you lack. You've read too much of that Ayn Rand
> self interest bullshit. Survival of the fittest. Piss on the
> unfortunate. It's their fault they weren't born into better
> circumstances.
> It's their fault that they have physical and/or mental disabilities.
> Your slavish devotion to uncontrolled capitalism is disgusting.
> Corporate welfare!! Hospitals that advertise! "When you get sick,
> come to us, we'll get you well quicker."
> Commercials for prescription drugs!! "Never mind what your doctor
> said, use our stuff. If it don't kill you, you might get well
> faster!"
> It's free enterprise run amok.
> Someone once said, "The driving force behind capitalism was that mass
> production would reduce prices of needed goods to where average
> people could afford them. Now capitalism is driven by skillful
> marketing and urgent acquisitiveness."
> The avaricious CEOs are motivated strictly by the bottom line and the
> public be damned.
> The corporations have taken over the government. This country no
> longer has a government of the people, by the people, for the people.
> It's government by corporations and their lobbyists.
> How the hell do you figure that the firefighter's and policemen's
> families will be taken care of better than "most"? *Some* of the
> families of those who were killed on 9/11 will get a better
> settlement than "most" .....maybe. Do you resent that?
> MOST firefighters and policemen pay more into their pension funds than
> "most" do. I paid 13-1/2 % into the fund I now receive from. The
> city paid the same amount as they would if they were paying into
> Social Security.
> The most important thing you need to know about our benefits is that
> there was only so much money to go around. It was our (collective)
> decision to take some of our salary as "benefits". We didn't get
> anything for free.
> And I wouldn't want you with me at a fire. I need to trust and
> depend on my fellow fire "workers".
> You brag about your capitalist occupation of junk food peddler; what
> was your contribution to humanity?
> You have the temerity to insult anyone who disagrees with you;
> calling them liars, accusing them of lacking integrity; have you no
> understanding of what an opinion is?
> As our illustrious <G> Attorney General once said, "Everyone is
> entitled to their opinion, as ill informed as it might be". Your
> certainly free to disagree but who the hell are you to call someone a
> liar when, half the time, you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you
> over the head.
>
> My apologies to any others who may be offended by my rant to Lon.
>
> Max

Saint Max the firefighter? While I certainly believe that a firefighter is
an honorable profession, your self exaltations come across as wall to wall
horseshit.
Since you don't like Capitalism, I guess that makes you a Socialist or a
Communist and we all know what their contributions to humanity are. Between
Stalin and Mao
they only killed 40 to 60 million people and tortured millions more.

The USA has millions of people banging on our doors trying to get in. They
are all leaving compassionate, generous, altruistic, noble, magnanimous,
non-capitalistic countries, to come to our den of inequity and horrors. Ya
aren't those people stupid leaving your visions of Shangri-la?


--
Frank Howell
www.fphowell.com


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