Re: OT: Mexican Workers (was No Merry Christmas? )

"GBinNC" <GBinNC@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote

>
> It's easy for us to sit in judgment. Most of us here on the NG (even the
> few who may have grown up in public housing or other poverty) are
> fortunate enough never to have even dreamed of living in the kind of
> conditions many of those folks left behind -- and would do almost
> anything, legal or illegal, to escape and try to have a better life.
>
> I'm not saying we don't need to find a way to manage it. All I'm saying>
> is that a little compassion and understanding wouldn't hurt.
>
> "Inasmuch as ye have done it to the least of these, my brethren...."
> (It's that pesky "Golden Rule" thing again.)
>
> GB in NC

I'm all in favor of some compassion and understanding, but the people
on your side of the discussion are as prone to mischaracterizing the issues
involved as the people speaking out against the illegal aliens. First off,
as of today, we're talking about something on the order of 11 million
people, around 10% of Mexico's total population. The sheer impact of their
numbers is driving down wages in a number of industries. This long ago
stopped being a matter of down trodden peasants. It takes a certain amount
of money to be able to even attempt the trip. Reports of illegal immigrants
paying the smugglers $2,000 to $3,000 have become common. Many of these
people are college graduates.

And as for that "pesky" Goldren rule thing? Where does it end? Do we
just open the door and let everyone in until the US becomes another third
world country? I'm not exaggerating here. The problems of our neighbor to
the south are enourmous. Under NAFTA the poverty in Mexico has increased and
they now have the worst distribution of wealth in Latin America.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mexico


"Because of the government's continuing financial problems, it cannot even
adequately subsidize its universities (or the basic research that would
provide full employment for Mexican scientists and engineers, and ultimately
improve the national economy). The College of the Northern Frontier in
Tijuana did a survey and estimated that more than 100,000 of the illegal
immigrants entering the U.S. each year are university-educated."


[It should be noted here that the Mexican governement's financial
problems are a result of their unwillingness or inability to enact needed
reforms. As amazing as it may seem for an American, the Mexicans are under
taxed.]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4802654


"All Things Considered, August 16, 2005 · A new survey by the Pew Hispanic
Center finds surprising views towards immigration on both sides of the
U.S.-Mexican border."
[snip]
"Both foreign-born Hispanics and those native to the United States feel that
immigration levels should stay about the same. But a poll taken in Mexico
paints a very different picture. It suggests an estimated 32 million adults
in Mexico -- about 46 percent of adults -- would come to the United States
if they had the means and opportunity. And about half of those people said
they'd be willing to move to and work in the United States illegally."
[snip]
"The Pew study finds that 35 percent of Mexican college graduates want to
come to the United States, even if they have to work at a job below their
qualifications. Many college-educated people who want to come to the United
States said they would come illegally."

[As I said GB, I really do try to stay out of this stuff here, but
there are times when both sides make me crazy.]

TB


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