Re: OT-: Liberals VS Conservatives


Lone Haranguer wrote:
> Vito wrote:
>
> > "Lone Haranguer" <linusz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> >
> >>trai·tor > n. One who betrays one's country, a cause, or a trust,
> >
> > especially one who
> >
> >>commits treason.
> >>
> >>Kerry made deals with the Viet Cong in Paris. He qualifies as a traitor.
> >
> >
> > OK, now I understand your thinking. Kerry betrayed the Whiz Kids cause by
> > opposing their traitorous activities, making him a traitor.
>
> Errr, no. He engaged in traitorous ACTIVITIES, which made him fit the
> definition of a traitor.
> >
> >>a man who volunteered for hazardous duty on
> >>
> >>>Riverine craft, saw actual combat and was even wounded
> >>
> >>At the time Kerry volunteered it was a low-risk posting.
> >
> >
> > Riverine or Swift Boat? Which did he volunteer for? Riverine was never
> > low-risk, I had friends serving on them. OTOH you are right about Swifties -
> > almost as hazardous as serving on a destroyer or cruiser.
>
> He went to Swift boats, NOT the Riverine force. Read his bio.

To be specific, he put Swifts as his first choice, and PBR's (Riverene)
for his second choice.

Swifts, at the time Kerry volunteered for them, were involved in
coastal patrol. Which is to say that in the whole things of
things-Vietnam, Swifts were more dangerous than most. But I say that
because the average "job" in Vietnam didn't have us in combat. The vast
majority of guys never fired their weapon in anger. So, while the
anti-Kerry crowd like to say that the Swifts Kerry volunteered for was
a cush job, that isn't really true. Besides, he didn't need to
volunteer for anything, but he did.

Anyway, the Swifts became much more dangerous later. Especially where
Kerry ended up going (An Thoi), where the Navy had them with almost no
support whatsoever. At that point I'd have to venture a guess that they
were among the highest risk jobs in all of Vietnam.

Doug Reese

> >>He was jockeying for political office and thought it would be a winning
> >>ticket. Just how dumb are you?
> > >
> > Sure. What was the shrub doing at the same time besides killing his brain
> > with drugs and beating his wife?
>
> At least you don't deny it.
> >
> >>>Who's a traitor, the draft dodgers who tricked us into the war or the
> >
> > man
> >
> >>>who fought in it then tried to get us out? Why, according to you, the
> >
> > latter
> >
> >>>of course.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Truman initially got us into Indo-China in a deal with the French. Do the
> >>research. We left our allies in the lurch because bottom-feeding liberals
> >>lost their balls when they saw their draft notices showing up in the mail.
> >
> >
> > You are living proof that those who know nothing of history are doomed to
> > repeat its mistakes.
>
> Yep. Walking away has always given the enemy the will to keep fighting.
>
> Vietnam
> Jimmy Peanut and the embassy hostages
> Clinton and Somalia
>
> Bin Laden even gives those events as proof of how weak we are. Do more
> reading...
>
> We could have walked away at any time before the
> > Whizzers began inventing Gulf of Tonkin.
> >
> See above. You don't want to be seen as a paper tiger. Even cowardly
> pissants think they can knock you over.
> LZ

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  • Re: OT-: Liberals VS Conservatives
    ... > Kerry made deals with the Viet Cong in Paris. ... He qualifies as a traitor. ... Riverine or Swift Boat? ... Which did he volunteer for? ...
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  • Re: OT-: Liberals VS Conservatives
    ... Kerry made deals with the Viet Cong in Paris. ... He qualifies as a traitor. ... because the average "job" in Vietnam didn't have us in combat. ... How many Swift Boat sailors were KIA? ...
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  • Re: Swift Boat authors book goes to No.1.
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