Re: OT- Comparing Katrina to the Tsunami


"The Lone Haranguer" <linusz@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Roger & Lorraine Martin wrote:
>
> >>It's because of the nanny state mentality.
> >>
> >>http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/c-e/darr/2005/darr090205.htm
> >>
> >>Read the above article and see where it leads.
> >>LZ
> >
> > Just re enforces my views - it only took two days for the vestiges
> > of civilisation to disappear and the rule of the mob to take over.
>
> Yep, but ONLY among those who have subsisted on the public dole for a
> couple of generations. A situation that YOU endorse.
>

What I dont understand is that we also have families who have lived
on social welfare, but in times of flood or bush fires they dont grab
the nearest gun and start mugging, looting and raping. The people
in SE Asia did nt do that either, the Chinese regularly go through
flooding on a magnitude far greater and they dont go berserk

Whats wrong with Americans if they do that?

I can understand breaking into shops for food and
water for survival, thats not even looting in my mind, but walking
off with a TV and stereo and rummaging through empty houses.

Whats gone wrong with the fabric of US society?

As for the looters only being those on long term dole I bow to
your obvious better knowledge of the demographics of the refugees.

> > Philosophically I believe that a civilised society cares for those
> > less able to care for themselves or at least has appropriate
> > counter disaster plans in place when the worst happens. I find
> > it hard to come to grips with abandoning people to their fate,
> > but if thats what you think the nanny state does then that is your
> > opinion.
> >
> You seem to ignore the fact that this was a MANDATORY evacuation that
> those who ended up wailing on TV CHOSE to ignore. They weren't
> leaving. Period. You could have sent a Limo and they would have
> stayed because the honest citizens knew the looters were coming and
> the looters knew opportunity was coming.
>

If it was mandatory, a lot of people did nt get told about it, tourists
seem to have been abandoned by hotel staff. Stories are now being
given out on TV news of one British couple who went out prior to the
hurricane hitting only to return to a locked and boarded up hotel. All
their luggage still inside.

> They weren't ABANDONED by anyone. They chose to ignore warnings in
> favor of what they THOUGHT were their own interests. The fact that
> MASSIVE help arrived later in the week proves that plans were in place
> and the machinery was working. Their own local elected officials were
> the ones who failed to perform as expected. These were chosen on the
> basis of race and party affiliation, NOT on competence.
> LZ

Having watched GWB on TV I thought he was struggling with the whole
concept of an unplanned thing happening to him. And when that disaster
management official said on Friday that he did n't have "confirmation
of the size of the disaster until Thursday" - he could not answer the
interviewer's statement; "Dont you guys watch TV, we've been giving
out news reports since it happened!". Its just all distinctly on the nose.

Two Australian TV news crews have rescued Australians stuck in NO,
but the US Govt. was refusing until today to allow consular officials entry
to assist with the evacuation of tourists. Two British and Australian
consular
officials are now having to provide assistance to all Commonwealth
Country citizens - which could be thousands. God only knows what is
happening to the other nationalities without any consular help at all. By
the
way the reason for getting foreign nationals out when a disaster strikes
is so that help can go to the locals who need it.


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