Re: OT Gasoline shortage great idea!



"Chris Bryant" <bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.08.31.21.49.16.342980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:12:31 -0700, Dusty wrote:
>
>> If we could get the government and their eco-nitwit enablers out of our
>> energy supply, the Arabs would be reduced to drinking their own, surplus
>> oil within 5-years.
>
> That's an interesting statement. Are you saying that we could produce
> enough oil to feed our demand?
> Don't forget that the US uses 25% of the worlds oil, and has 3% of the
> known reserves (counting ANWAR and off shore Florida stuff).
Well, let's clarify that a bit. The US uses about 25% of the worlds total
consumption of ENERGY. But then again, we produce something like 40% of the
worlds products (esp. food and other consumables) and innovations. Although
important, oil is only a fraction of that. In addition, oil has uses beyond
transportation. Can you say, "plastics & synthetics?" As for known
reserves, I don't recall the exact number, but you might be right w/the 3%
(keeping in mind that there's a vast gulf between "proven" reserves, and as
yet undiscovered reserves). Most of our current energy production is from
coal, next is gas. We can cut the coal & gas to near nothing by building
and installing clean, efficient new nuclear power plants.

They've got these new reactors that have no moving parts, and are fueled and
sealed at the factory. They just make hot, and will run unattended for
30-years. They're kinda like a 300 ton, 50 MW Eveready. Just plug it in
and go. No more multi-billion dollar, one-of-a-kind plants with their
decades long construction and endless eco-nitwit sponsored delays. Build
factory designed installations complete in 4-1/2 months.

In addition, there's TDP (Thermal dePolymerization). We can use that to
process every scrap of our voluminous garbage production (past, present, &
future). TDP will reduce everything in our trash--any biological
product--to gas, oil, water, and constituent minerals. Doing in 2-hours
what takes nature 200 million years to do under the dirt. And it does it
for about 15% of the energy it produces, besides yielding raw materials
(minerals & such), and clean perfectly pure, drinkable water. Best of all,
energy produced that way (heat, gas, & oil) is ENTIRELY a zero net impact on
the whimsical CO2 based notion of GW (total BS, but that's the subject of
another thread). Why they don't have thousands of those things munching
their way through our trash heaps is beyond me...but I'd suspect that you'd
find the main reason hiding behind (or under) some desk in the petrochemical
industry...

You can feed anything at all into the maw of the TDP converter: wastes of
any kind; medical, old tires, any kind of garbage, plastics, liquids,
timber, coal, peat, petro-byproducts, produce, dead cows, cardboard,
newspapers, old asphalt roads, anything! And it will produce methane
(natural gas), oil (about #2 fuel oil grade), any minerals left over from
that process, and pure drinkable water. Much of the solids left over would
be raw carbon-black, millions of tons of which are used each year in the
tire manufacturing process. Things like the sand or gravel used in the
asphalt would be spit out as just clean sand or gravel. Metals are just
metals, and are untouched by the process. They're cleaned and come out
ready for sale to any of the many metal refiners available today.

> Of course- we do need Nuclear power- we just don't need the reactors built
> by the lowest bidder, IMHO.
Now, to a degree, here I agree with you. OTOH; reactors like the Toshiba 4S
that I was referring to above, would be ideal. Instead of costing billions
and taking decades to get running, they cost around $2-300m and can be ready
in short order. But, to do any of that, folks would have to want to. And
as long as the loud, shrill braying from the idiot left supports
no-drilling, no-nukes, no-refineries, no-powerplants, NIMBY, no-development
and so on, that ain't gonna happen. And all the hype you read about wind &
solar is a pipe dream. It ain't gonna happen in a meaningful way. Neither
is hydrogen within the next decades. The nukes and TDP can be built and
used today, right now. Inventing some new method (which I'm all for--but
the physics doesn't (yet) support) won't help for the foreseeable future.


Dusty
San Jose, Ca.

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