Re: Fly Tie-ers

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:44:31 -0600, rw <rw56_to_the_chase@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rw wrote:

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

It's ironic that you pretend to champion undocumented workers (or
whatever PC term you prefer), while advocating denying to them the
work they seek.


If they're undocumented or illegal (or whatever racist term you prefer)
they will necessarily be exploited while at the same time denying legal
workers the employment which they seek.

So now I'm a racist for pointing out an irony in your argument? What do
you think you are, a junkyard dog? You appear to me more like an ankle
biter.

I'm for enforcement of employer sanctions (which already exist), as I
gather you are, too. Just be prepared to pay a LOT more for strawberries
and yard work, and even skilled construction or an array of other things.

I'm also for enforcement of border security.

I wonder how much of our economy is "under the table" -- cash payments
off the books. I know a lot of people who work that way, and they aren't
all illegal aliens, though a couple are. I think it's a hell of a lot of
the economy,

Of course it is, and it finds its way into the tax system, thankfully
mostly where it belongs - in the community in which it was earned. For
example, take a general who pays his subs on a $350,000USD home. The
money to pay for the home (the GC's client) is likely earned in the
state, if not the city and county, and the GC is likely "local" as are
his subs. Now, let's assume his subs have the typical range of illegals
(more on a framing or finish trades crew, less on the licensed trades
like electrical subs) who are paid in cash "off-the-books" and send some
home south of the US border, but spend the rest locally, buying
everything from clothes to food to rent. That money doesn't get
Federally-taxed at the transaction from employer to employee (sub to
illegal), but sales tax, property tax, even income tax, etc. all get
taken out sooner or later.

and I'm not even counting drug transactions.

I've heard, but have no hard numbers to demonstrate, that drug
transactions are the most costly in the "underground" economy to the
overall economy of a country, state, city, etc. I'm not talking about
the costs of silly-assed attempts to jail responsible adults for having
a joint or three, but rather, that very little of the money spent in
hard-core _drug transactions_ is legit money that remains even in the
country of origin. IOW, the majority of "street" buyers are using
ill-gotten gains to buy the drugs that the street dealer got fronted
from the lower distributor who got it fronted to the next level, etc.,
etc., and when the ill-gotten drug dollar makes its way up the chain,
the bulk winds up off-shore. I'd guess that some portion makes its way
back via purchases of legit goods, but I can readily believe that it
sucks more out than illegals sending money home.

TC,
R
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