Re: a sense of perspective


"Dave LaCourse" <dplacourse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:11:15 -0500, Peter Charles
> <minibrown_1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >Well, we could sit here and sling, "My study is better than your
> >study." but the most comprehensive, fair, unbiased and massive study I
> >ran across had Canada slightly ahead overall. It acknowledged that
> >the U.S. system does a better job on cardiac care but worse in others.
> >True to form of course, our press only reported the cardiac care side
> >of things.
>
> Peter, I don't want to get into this pissing contest, but go to a
> cancer newsgroup, say, prostate cancer. The American patients have
> far more successful treatments than do the Canadians, or the English.
> I used to be active in such a group and almost every Canadian patient
> was incontinent and impotent because of poor treatment. In the
> states, however, the docs have come up with a rather long procedure
> that ensures almost normal activity after the surgery. If you
> experience prostate cancer, I urge you to come to the states.
>
> Dave
>

Don't know about outcome percentages, but do know about newest prostate
cancer surgical (non radioactive) because I took a chance on the robot when
it was being proofed up a few years ago and it probably saved my life. (So
far at least). The nerve damage in my arms I got had zip to do with the
robot per se, and more to do with the fact that the Docs were learning and
things just went too long. Id do it again with the same guys in a heartbeat.
In any case I had my arms pretty much back in 18 months. Like Dave says,
and I believe, the US is the current leader in this stuff. However, now that
same operation costs 40-50k US in Seattle area.

Also, lots here go up North to BC to buy various first rate surgeries and
dentistry at lower than US costs. And Im told lots go to Cuba for very
advanced eye surgery.

Dave


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