Re: You stupid Mick

Phil Holman wrote:
"zookumar yelubandi" <zookumar@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Phil Holman wrote:
"'foolsrushin.'" <dolomite8@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Phil: Not just Professor Jones, but nobody who knows how to tip
something over, is in any doubt that the whole thing is very spooky,
indeed!

What are you asking me? I'm tired of reading through the myriad of
accounts, all containing so many errors as to cast doubt on the
authors'
critical thinking skills.
Myriad of accounts?
Yes, Google WTC collapse

I have. Controlled demolition versus pancake LIEpothesis.
That's only one credible account.

There is only the government's account and
the truthful account.
FEMA and ASCE are the authors of one, who is the author of the other?

Stephen Jones, PhD. Thermite/thermate analysis supported by
vast amounts of corroborating physical evidence. As for FEMA and ASCE,
the laws of physics precludes their claims, so they must be discounted
as pro-establishment rags; moreover, their authors should be stripped of
their credentials, and sent back to high school, this time for a proper
training in the sciences.

The government's account is falsifiable; moreover,
it has been falsified in a myriad of ways. But since you have refused
to abandon the government's account, perhaps you need to
mischaracterize
the myriad of ways as a myriad of accounts.
No I don't, I know what I said and it needs no twisting from you.

We all know what you wrote, and the only tenable conclusion
there is you want to pretend that so many accounts exist and that that
has exhausted you. Well, let me propose a more credible hypothesis:
lying through the teeth probably has expended a lot of your energy and
the laws of energy conservation then supports the theory of your
exhaustion.


There are holes in the official account which could be filled in by a
full FBI disclosure.
There are holes in the official account that are permanent. In
fact, most of the holes are permanent. There is no magic plaster in
full FBI disclosure.
Not the evidence surrounding the hit on the Pentagon. Aren't you
interested to know what really happened to the 757? One account said the
plane was still flying around.

WTC7 and Larry Silverstein's confession is sufficient to bring
the whole psychotic circus tent down. Why would you think that
anything coming from the FBI about the Pentagon attack now would matter,
let alone have credence?


One would need detailed analysis of the building
structure to properly evaluate the building collapses.
False.
What happened to the building at the moment of failure. What combination
of structural damage and temperature is required to collapse a floor?
What damage was sustained by the inner core structure? You may not
require answers to these questions but that's your problem. You may want
to go forward (that is where you are going isn't it, I mean there is
some point to all of this?) with your version of the truth but others do
not.

In fact, virtually all truthseekers have come to the conclusion
that I have. And the remaining are in the process of crossing the T's
and dotting the I's.

The preponderance of observable macroscopic evidence removes the
need for microscopic studies. But even there, Steven Jones has written
an article about thermite residue found on steel samples taken from
memorial parks. In any event, if you see pyroclastic debris clouds and
steel beams ejected hundreds of yards horizontally, you don't need to
analyze the strength of the steel.


Simple physics invoking the laws of angular momentum;
the laws of conservation of energy; the equations of kinematics; are
sufficient to understand that the pancake collapse theory is a
fabrication that is untenable.
Simple physics indeed. If the freefall time is 9.1 seconds and WTC 1
took 12.6 seconds and WTC 2 took 11.5 seconds to fall, what were the
average accelerations of each building?

I already played this game with you. After wipng your face with
the facts, you resorted to pretending that nothing had changed. Why
would you think I'd be willing to waste time chasing another goose?
Thermate residue. Pyroclastic clouds. Squibs of smoke observed 20 or so
stories below the collapse front. Explosions heard in the basement.

Okay. How about a third seel structure? WTC7 and Larry
Silverstein. Care to debate REAL FACTS and PURSUITS?

Further evidence of the fabrication is
borne by witness testimony of explosions heard that are unrelated to
the plane impacts. Pyroclastic debris clouds, too, are untenable with the
pancake collapse fable. As is video evidence of squibs of smoke
located far from the collapsing front. It is an egregious lie to suggest that
the preponderance of observable evidence still allows room for the
government's fabricated account.
As evidenced in rom, no one doubts your ability to interpret the
ordinary as the incredible. What is lacking, despite your continued
appeals to intelligent people, is the support of such people in rom. In
fact, the list of people who oppose your view is getting longer. Why is
that? These people do not appear to be evil or unreasonable, yet given
the same observable facts, they are not convinced.

You must be in some Orwellian doublethink dreamland. Your
credibility is nonexistent with intelligent folks. Equally, it is high
with incredible idiots. From an intellectual and integrity standpoint,
I like where I'm standing.


My opinion is,
the amount of damage sustained together with the effects of a fire
were enough to bring down this design configuration.
A worthless opinion. And any honest individual who has looked
at the directly observable evidence, never mind the additional
circumstantial evidence, will come to the same evaluation. The only
question left is why you would lend benefit of doubt when there is no
credible doubt left.
My experience with almost 40 years of engineering design and
investigation.

Yeah, and Thomas Eagar is a professor at MIT. Another
quasi-intellectual shill who is willing to squander all integrity by
propping up an untenable hypothesis (the contrived "pancake" theory)
which does not fit the observable facts.

That's the problem with debating with you, anyone who is
not convinced is labeled dishonest. How to make friends and influence
people ...not.

My interest here is not friendship nor influence. It's justice.
It's exposition of truths. It's an attempt to reconcile observable
evidence with probable cause. You *are* dishonest. I've exposed you in
your intellectual dishonesty.


If one wants to fill in the blanks with a story consistent with a
world view of Zionist manipulation, that's fine.
Nope. That's more than fine. That is investigated reality.
The Zionist occupation of American government and manipulation of its
foreign policy is well documented.
Yes, but its the connection to 9/11 that is in question. Not only how
they did it but who.

Investigate Odigo, Ptech, Urban Moving Systems, Five Dancing
Israelis, Put Options on American Airlines stock, PNAC, etc. Of course,
you have spent the better part of your contributions here on ROM
obstructing investigation.


Do the research. Or continue to do
the Zionists's bidding.
Zionist bidding? You are such a romantic.
Suppose I agree with everything you say, now what? I want more than an
eternal record in Google as a good guy. What are we going to do, or
should I say, what are you doing?

Use your own judgement. What? You want me to tell you what to
do and say? Stand up and be a man. Every man must make his own
decisions, and for that, in turn, he will be judged. Mine is to report
truth/facts wherever I find it/then. And I don't do it for any
individual but for the sake of my own conscience. I don't want to look
in the mirror at some later date and see a coward. Apparently, such is
not the case with you.


Using it as a yardstick for
evaluating an opponents ethics or intelligence doesn't make any sense
to me. I'm hardwired by Western culture and influenced by their religion
and philosophy. Others are not.
Western culture is an ongoing thing. It existed prior to
Zionist occupation, it is existing through the Zionist occupation, and
it will exist after the chains of Zionist occupation are lifted from
its neck and shoulders. More the further, 911/2001 gives us a good
yardstick for measuring many things at once: one's integrity, one's
courage ... equally, one's cowardice, one's mendacity.
If a yardstick exists, it makes sense to use it.
It may end up as a rod for your own back.
Phil H

That one is loaded with meanings. Care to explicate?

-zookumar-
.

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