Re: Zeno Zeno Zeno
- From: "tomcat" <jlavine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 10 Jun 2006 15:30:44 -0700
'foolsrushin.' wrote:
Which Wttgenstein? 'Tractaus' or 'Invesigations'
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'foolsrushin.'
In the 'Tractatus' Wittgenstein can't see the forest for the trees. In
the 'Investigations' he recognizes the forest, but has difficulty with
trees. Philosophy for Wittgenstin was the clarification of thought,
and this is best approached through the examination of the spectacles
by which we see ideas, viz., language.
In the 'Tractatus' thoughts have meaning in their place with the entire
language. Later, in the 'Investigations', thoughts have meaning with
regard to the language game being played, algebra, venn diagrams, or
german, are possible examples.
The meaning of meaning is, then, the rules of the construction of our
thoughts in some particular thought game. It is more the syntax in the
'Investigations' rather than just semantics embedded in general
verbiage as in the 'Tractatus'.
Remember that Wittgenstein was rebutting the thesis of the Vienna
Circle (Nazi Philosophy) that meaning consists only in immediately
given sensation. For the Vienna Circle there is no meaning to pain
other than 'pain behavior', which is merely distorted faces and the
waving of arms.
It is my, tomcat's, contention that meaning is embedded in the concept
of 'Mind', not merely the swirl of words or impact of sense data.
'Mind' is a private state, as are emotions and perception itself.
'Mind' is the root of our world, not some 'word' thrown about on the
winds of syntax.
tomcat
tomcat wrote:
VictorJames wrote:
Read "The Meaning of Meaning" by the Semantics authors Richards and
Ogden
I am familiar with Wittgenstein, so what did Richards and Ogden have to
say?
tomcat
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