Re: US Media finally wake-up re France

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> Because the north-african/african young citizens, by their attitudes, made
> their names mud,

Is Fourniret north-African? Are you telling to me that there no "voyou"
that are "white", French and of French origin? The cripples are also
discriminated. Who made their name mud?

> they have a bad reputation that is not the resilt of the
> racism of the average French guy, but of their attitude and acts (It's not
> an attempt to generalization, what I say have to be partially relativized
> of course ...)
>
> I think they partly GENERATED the discrimantions by their attitude ...
> Blaming the French is the easy handy hypocrite way.

I see you are prone to insulting in every direction. You made your ideas
mud. Are you in the fn? A follower of the little Nicolas?

> False pretences ....... I actually lived / went to school and worked with
> the kind of people I'm talking about ...

Yes, and there is a Black in the fn.

> >Even in the centre of Paris, the dark-skinned persons are discriminated.

> What do you mean exactly ? in work ?

Sure. But it's true there is not many black-skinned persons in the Centre
of Paris, there are discriminated for the apartments also, and have to live
in the suburbs.

> laisse-moi la latitude de porter un jugement sur cette façon de présenter
> les choses. on s'éloigne pas du sujet en faisant ça dailleurs, la façon
> d'interpréter ces évènement est vraiment intéressante et partie prenante
> de la question IMO.
> [leave me the leeway to judge that way to present things. Besides, we
> don't evade the topic doing that. The manner to interpret the events is
> very interesting and belongs the issue IMO.]

You call me irresponsible, which is an ad hominem. It isn't a good way to
address the issue, you have to explain why. I see you are politically
biased. Tomorrow, another revolt will start from Clichy-sous-Bois, the scum
will go and get their elector's card. In 2007, Sarcosi will shout: "Putain,
cinq ans [F..., five years]".

> Are the French racist ?

You correctly read: "the France d'en haut".

<snip fn propaganda>

> I see no fusion.

You never looked. After what you said, I'll be surprised if you had any
interest in suburban culture, and culture in general.

> Méfie-toi de l'analyse des journaux Anglo-saxons sur la question ... et
> des médias Français aussi soit-dit en passant ...
> [untrust the analysis of the English journals about this issue, and by the
> way also of the French media...]

And why shouldn't I distrust yourself also? You are the Messiah? You
always claim to hold the one and only truth, but when things go wrong
because of you, you throw the fault on your victims. You can't be wrong
that way.

Remember the UK, Thatcher and the Thatcherism, the hooligans. Now, we don't
hear of the hooligans anymore, and the redundancy quote dropped to full
employment. There is an anti-discrimination law. Were the hooligans
responsible of their own misery? The argument doesn't stand. A far-right,
ultra-liberal policy is doomed to fail.

Given you mastering of the English language, I don't think you can teach me
about the English press.

> Quant à au fait que les emplois, les commerçants (souvent d'origine
> nord-africaine-africaine ou asiatique) et les services de l'état
> disparaissent de leur quartiers,
> c'est bien de leur faute ...
> [As for the fact that the jobs, the shopkeeper (often of north-African or
> Asian origin, and the utilities leave their district, it's well their
> fault...]

Yes, because they are poor and don't buy enough. The businesses take the
easy false pretence of criminality, but when there is money to earn, it's
not a problem, even if the life of their employees are in danger.

> I take it as a "I live trather far from these zones, and rarley
> meet/see/hear these categoey of persons."

I take it as a "I'm the token suburban of the national front of jean-marie
le pen!"

> Wow ......... That had to be dared ....... I'd like to know what is the
> sorce of your belief that "Most of the revoltees were white French of
> French origin, unknown by the police, Sarcosi lied about that."

Perhaps the judgements of the Justice, the observations of the police and of
the educators. Well, I stop here, I see this question is embarrassing you.

> you are part of these people that consider that this is young people
> revolting against an injust oppressive order ... a communist-like revolt,
> right ? Do you applaude at this ?

Don't make me say what I didn't say. Insult and then unfair methods, your
case is judged.

In summary, what you say is: "It's the pleasure of the suburbans to live in
run down building, in dirty districts, without money and job, and to be
hassled by police controls. They are in misery on purpose, in order to
have false pretences for burning their own cars, schools, and sport
equipments.

> BTW it's :
>
> - Sarkozy (Nicolas Paul Stéphane Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa) of Jewish
> Hungarian origin.

No, it's Sarcaud. He isn't of foreign origin since he is the worst
immigrant-bashing personality. He lives up to his reputation of traitor.

--
~~~~ clmasse on free F-country
Liberty, Equality, Profitability.


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