Re: first pro synth
- From: tysteel2000@xxxxxxx
- Date: 15 Feb 2006 19:25:11 -0800
Rick Massey wrote:
I've been staying out of this thread, because of my vehement dislike for
Korg products for the most part.
My personal take is to get a master controller you really like, and then
supplement with modules.
Thanks for the reply, Rick. Thanks to all who have replied. This
might be a good idea for me, what you have suggested. While I have
thought about purchasing a new synth, it seems a much better move just
to purchase a master controller that I like, and find modules to
supplement. Afterall, I already have one synth module (JV880) that I
found online cheap, and I'm sure there are more to find.
I would probably choose a semi-weighted controller to use, as it's more
lightweight than the hammer actions. But what about sequencing? I
would guess that some bands in the local area would want some parts
"pre-sequenced", so it seems that if I go this route of seeking out a
controller that I like instead of picking up an expensive workstation,
I assume that I will have to find a sequencer from somewhere.
For a grand, you could get into a MAudio Keystation Pro, which has great
action and a metric buttload of control options, and then supplement it with
used modules to fill out your sound. You're going to spend ony about a
hunddred bucks for either a Proteus 1 or a Kurzweil 1000px on the used
market, (with no more than fifty bucks to upgrade the 1000px to a ffull
blown Pro 1) and that still leaves you cash for a good line mixer and a
couple of direct boxes, and if you're frugal, you can even throw in a MIDI
controlled reverb to give your stuff a unified sound. (The ART ProVerb is a
great choice, because it's true stereo and the presets are very useable,
plus they're tanks) Throw in an inexpensive SKB rack, and you have a very
powerful, flexible, and versatile system that has everything you'll ever
need for any gigging band outside the techno arena.
The other benefit of this is that you also have flexibility, so when you
find that you need an analog synth module, or a drawbar module, or some FM,
you just have to pick up what you need, slide it into the rack, and spend an
afternoon retweaking your setups to incorporate the new module.
Finally, you roll the rack in, pop the covers, grab the snake out of the
rack that has your two MIDI cables , plug te MIDI cables in, plug in power,
and then point to the two direct boxes for the sound guy to plug into, and
you're set.
YOu wouldn't believe how much more professional you sound with a unified
reverb (that is a good quality one) over the entire mix. And with MIDI
reverb you can easily change it per patch. Building a good pipe organ sound
across multiple modules andthe nhitting it with a good reverb is a great
sound.
Alternately, if you like the feel of your digital piano keyboard, find
yourself an Oberheim Systemizer. (Make sure it has the manual.) That will
give you three splits per keyboard, plus patch changes on an additional
channel group for a second synth or two, with more options than almost any
keyboard controller ever made, along with patch chaining and other cool
features, all for really cheap -- they originally sold for about three
hundred and fifty bucks, so they should sell for under a hundred these days.
"HellPope Huey" <HellPopeHuey@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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tysteel2000@xxxxxxx wrote:
I was looking around the local pawn shops today for keyboards, and I
really didn't find much of anything that couldn't be labeled a home
keyboard. The closest I found to what seemed to be a "pro" keyboard
was a Roland E-96 "intelligent" keyboard, and it was selling for $499.
It looked worn down, and for that kind of money, it seems I'd be
better off buying a new Roland Juno-D.
The E-96 is two steps above a toy, although its not bad for a kid. That's
way too high a price for it now. The Juno-D has what I think to be the
problem with many starter synths and even some mid-range ones: it leaves
you hungry for more too soon, if you're doing more than dabbling.
Every synth has some good sounds in the startup set, but in my
experience, Roland makes you tweak a little harder to get that set in YOUR
ballpark. From a place that has access to Eric Persing, that seems ODD,
heh.
Yamaha seems to go this way too. Their SY85 is a GREAT- sounding
instrument with just a couple of early file-handling hassles, but the OS
makes tweaking more tedious. After so long, I am baffled at this
persisting, as Korg's startup patch sets are quite well-balanced and full,
to my ear.
I'm biased to some extent and I also want everyone to have a pro
workstation, as its a great home base in many ways, no matter what else
you do. I'm clearly not a lap-topper! I just know from long experience
that the Juno-D will come up short too soon, whereas the XP-30 had those
great JV-type components and a MUCH larger sound base. It has growth room.
That's the kind of thin but important line you're walking, so try to be
patient; it'll pay off.
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