Re: FS and Cluster Size for Audio and Misc Data on USB HD? (Tech, Semi OT)
- From: "Wayne Bjorken" <wab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:10:01 GMT
Sounds like you've answered all of your own questions.
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxcombinedupdate_10_3_6.html
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/status.html.
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_lxty.asp
If I were doing this, I'd test the external drive with different filesystem
formats.
On XP, it's a no brainer: NTFS
Linux: Probably NTFS and Samba
MAC: No experience here.
As far as the cluster size requirements. Data type specific. You require big
and small. Check the table in the third link provided above.
Wayne
www.springdivers.com
"Veli-Pekka Tätilä" <vtatila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:dmot1t$mdr$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi,
> Just got a 250 GB USB 2 based Lacie hard drive. Seems to work fine in XP,
> you just plug it in no driver installation needed. I'm planning to use
> this drive for storing various files including both small text and data
> files (e.g. sid, txt, cpp) as well as large audio and video stuff (flac,
> ogg, mpg etc...)
>
> My question is which file system and cluster size should I use when
> formatting the drive? Performance and cross-platform compatibility (OS X
> >= 10.3 , Linux 2.6) are my primary concerns in this order.
>
> The drive came pre-formatted in FAT32. However, I've read in various
> places that FAT32 does not support unicode names so a-umlauts (heavily
> used in Finnish) and other more exotic characters problably won't show up
> correctly in Linux or Mac. I know I shouldn't use such names but would
> like to if I can. Secondly, at least FAT16 wastes a huge amount of space
> as it has to raise the cluster size to fit in more data. Does FAT32 have
> this very same limitation? The capacity is 250 GB (where 1 GB is 1000 MB
> as far as HD manufacturers go).
>
> Lastly, FAT32 has a size limit of 4 GB per file, which might be an issue
> in some huge ISO files let alone wave or video. I have not hit the limit
> so far but there is a possibility that I might.
>
> As for what's good in NTFS, the unicode names, huge file sizes,
> self-healing and journaling come to mind very first. It also supports soft
> and hard links, compression and encryption but I have not found much use
> for these so far. I don't give a darn about security here, the assumption
> being that if someone gets physical access to the drive, then so be it
> <smile>. On the other hand, I've also read that NTFS has a bit more
> overhead in managing the files them selves and might offer only read-only
> access on LInux or OS X. IS it really true that no-one has managed to
> reverse-enginere NTFS to the extent of also writing new files on the disk?
> If such support exists, do you need special drivers in Linux or OS X?
>
> I'm somehow reluctant to go with FAT if I can avoid it, now that MS is
> gradually dropping the support for it, but it seems I might have to. Is
> FAT32 the only cross-platform HD file system that is also supported in
> Windows? I know Linux has got EXT3 and Reiser FS, among other things, but
> Macs and Windows machines won't be able to read those at least natively.
> My primary machines are WIndows only but I have friends who use Linux and
> OS X exclusively.
>
> Lastly, I'd like to enquire about the cluster size. I thought of going
> with the default 4k clusters initially as it seems a good compromise
> between size and performance. How big a difference does using 32 K
> clusters make in real-world sustained transfer rates? Plainly put, if I
> increase the cluster size does that mean a significant increase in the
> amount of simultaneous audio tracks as far as the HD goes?
>
> With 32 K clusters I know i would be wasting an awful lot of disk space
> when it comes to tiny files like SID music. With capacities of hundreds of
> gigs, a few hundred megs this way or that won't make much of a difference
> but I still like to optimize my disk space usage. This is probably an old
> habit from the DOS days. The first disk I used was 40 MB <shudders>.
>
> Any help, tips or links to further reading appreciated.
>
> --
> With kind regards Veli-Pekka Tätilä (vtatila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> Accessibility, game music, synthesizers and programming:
> http://www.student.oulu.fi/~vtatila/
>
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