Re: Installing internal microphones without feedback.



On Jul 10, 4:50 am, Len Killick <l...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The installation looks normal for this kit, except that I'm not used
to seeing the two volume controls next to each other; they are usually
placed each side of the register switches, but I wouldn't expect that
to cause any problem (but just puzzled about your comment about the
effect on the treble of turning down the bass).

There's also usually no problem with feedback, especially with the
Sennheiser capsules. I've seen a lot of them in instruments and they
don't have feedback problems. Perhaps you need to look at your
complete sound system - I always set mine up with minimal gain (i.e.
low volume setting) on the accordeon and let the power amp do the
work, if you have the accordeon volume regulators set up high the
capsules might well pick up all sorts of external sounds.

I don't agree with John's comment that these microphones are not good
enough, any microphone will have feedback probelms if the complete
system is not set up correctly.

On Jul 9, 11:18 pm, Viktor <vik...@xxxxxx> wrote:

Hello! First time for me here.
 
I play in a rockband. Very loud - and of course I have a lot of
feedback-problems - also in rehearsal-studio.
 
My former accordion was a Hohner Bravo III 96, where I installed
THOMANN ACM-01 accordion pickup system. Cheap, but worked quite well:http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_acm01.htm
 
I put some leather inside the case of the accordion to take away some
of the resonance, which I think helped a little regarding feedback.
 
Then I fell in love with a TIGER Combo´cordion from the sixties, and
bought it through EBAY:
Treble-side:http://www.flickr.com/photos/31544092@N06/3704893546/in/set-721576210...
Bass/Chorus-side:http://www.flickr.com/photos/31544092@N06/3704083637/in/set-721576210...
 
It came with an original crystal(?) microphone placed in the bellows.
Unfortunately the amplified sound was very sharp, and lots of
feedback.
 
Therefore I went to an accordion-dealer, and he suggested the
Microtech/Sennheiser MT-04 system, which he installed.
 
In the following pictures you can se how the system was installed.
 
Inside the treble side:http://www.flickr.com/photos/31544092@N06/3704084089/in/set-721576210...
 
Inside the bass/chorus side:http://www.flickr.com/photos/31544092@N06/3704083261/in/set-721576210...
 
I still have feedback-issues. Even though the sound is much better,
the Thomann system actually worked better regarding feedback. I also
experience a phase-problem, since the treble-side strangely has more
feedback when the bass/chorus-side is turned down.
 
Has my accordion dealer put the mike correctly on the bass/chorus-
side?
Close-up in the bass/chorus-sidehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/31544092@N06/3704082337/in/set-721576210...
 
Has anyone here got experience with installing internal microphones?
Is it maybe an idea to put a piece of foam weatherstrip(?) under the
circuit board to act as a sound
damper, as John C. writes here:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.makers.squeezebox/msg/7b99a8...
 
Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

Viktor (Copenhagen, Denmark)

I also disagree with John and agree with Len completely regarding the
Sennheiser caps (I also have the Microtech system) although I've never
used the Limex product. The only absolute solution would be to take
microphones completely out of the picture - (or put yourself in an
isolation box or buy a Roland V)
.



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