Re: a recent slur on the Accordion

Ventura <accordion@xxxxxxx> writes:

if the shoe fits, hey, i don't really give a
rat's ass what you play, but if you can't handle
these modern, interesting tools of the trade and
find their usefulness (or at least perceive it)
then just leave the rest of us alone, OK?

Who died and made you speaker for the group?

we don't need more Luddites spouting inanities
in the Accordion world... Lady of Spain is NOT
the National Anthem of Castlefidardo and environs

Talk about luddites spouting inanities...

so please say this aloud as you look in the mirror

"I don't have the___________________________
(fill in the blank with any or all of the following)

interest, motivation, chops, inclination, perception,
open-mindedness, talent, ability, brains,

to appreciate or use electronically enhanced Accordion
type instruments,

"electronically enhanced" is a euphemism if the thing is unable to
produce a sound without reverting to electronics. Enhancement starts
_after_ you have some _sound_, not just the equivalent of some Midi
signals.

"enhanced" also is quite a bit of euphemism if the "enhancement" is the
one dictating the beat to use, if additional parts are being played by
the "enhancement".

but i'm at least intelligent enough
to not hassle other musicians for being able to usefully
use and enjoy that which I so clearly am unable to master"

The topic was negative stereotypes of accordions. You won't get
anywhere with what you call "electronical enhancements" with regard to
the image of accordions. If people say "thank deity, this merely looks
like an accordion, but fortunately does not sound like one", that gets
you nowhere. You don't enhance the image of church organs by playing
electronic keyboards.

Even the omni-presence of certain semi-electronic instruments like
Fender Rhodes E-piano and Hammond organs in today's sampled keyboards
has not helped the original instruments proliferate. They remain
basically museum pieces.

Accordions at least are still built and developed. If you don't have
the physical strength to lug around an acoustic instrument anymore, that
does not render the original inferior.

A sampled instrument tries to be something else. Old electronic
instruments like electroniums at least try to go somewhere original.

David Kastrup blurted (so he thought) contemptuously, but
in reality quite lamely:

Oh come on. If the way to combat the negative stereotype of accordion
sound is to have a contraption that merely

Oh, and if you are not able to carry forward a sensible argument,
blustering all over is not a replacement for the real thing.

--
David Kastrup
.

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