Re: Drums getting swallowed up

Agree totally... I'm one of those mindless f*cks who bash the sh*t out
of my kit when I can't hear my drums, and the band sounds like a wall
of noise with 4 guys playing 4 different songs. But those gigs when
the band has played at lower volumes I've played some of my tastiest
stuff and the band has sounded the tightest and gotten the most
compliments. You'd think they would get it by now, but every time I
ask them to turn down their stage volume I get the old eye-rolling
"you wimp" retorts. My favorite is the "my amp sounds best when it's
turned up really loud". Hmmm.... OK. Well then aim it at YOUR head
then! ;-)

OK, vent off.

Paul

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:52:19 -0500, "Sean Conolly"
<sjconolly_98@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>"BKO" <brentolesen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:XYCdnRiZXPIGNiveRVn-oA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> "Stan Mulder" <stan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>>
>>> But I know it is the strangest feeling to hit my beautiful sounding
>>> 6.5x14
>>> Supraphonic on a gig and not even hear it. Somehow the sound gets
>>> swallowed up and I'm not sure I even hit the thing hard enough. The
>>> tendency is to play louder, but that's not the solution I'm finding. It's
>>> just a matter of adjusting to the different venue; perhaps relying on
>>> muscular memory of how loud to play.
>>
>> I've had that same problem, but I balk at having to play when I can't even
>> hear my own drums. I begin to wonder if those who tell me I'm playing
>> well
>> can even hear the drums, especially the ghost notes. Their statements
>> fall,
>> literally, on deaf ears. IMO when the stage volume goes to the level
>> where
>> you can't hear yourself something is wrong, and I hate it. I've tried ear
>> pods, but ran afoul of ignorant mixer-men who are often the same ***
>> heads
>> that are playing too loud in the first place. >:(
>
>I'm a huge believer in drummers doing their own monitor mix. The sound man
>out front has no idea what it sounds like back there, and even the band
>members in the front line have a drastically different sound field than the
>drummer does. I've never yet met a guitar player who honestly believed that
>their 'little' 2-12 amp could completely drown out 'that great big drumset
>of yours'. I have two answers - a: the band can bring down the stage volume
>(which makes the whole show so much easier to mix), or b: I can start
>bringing my 'drum monitors' - two 18 inch cabs with 2000 watts of amp to
>push 'em. I've never had a problem hearing myself sitting between those
>suckerz!
>
>Sean
>

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