Re: GB200 vs PM100
- From: pez_espada <Carlos.Dommar@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:08:32 -0000
On 31 jul, 23:22, 335pla...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jul 31, 3:35 pm, pez_espada <Carlos.Dom...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not to piss anybody off ;) but FWIW this strikes me as a classic
usenet misunderstanding between native speakers of different languages
- seeing "implied insults" where none are intended. What's jokey off-
the-cuff friendliness in one language sometimes looks quite rude in
another. I think both of you tried for an informal friendly tone and
had it backfire.
I would agree with that Tone, that's why I offered my apologies to Max
-in case I misunderstood his reply and he was truely friendly and he
I admit that his "$1000" reply sounded rather rude to me, though.
That's the reason of my kinda sarcastic reply, and I apolagize for
that even when there were not explicit insults in that, my first reply
to Max. The open insults started from the other side, as everyone can
read. Anyway I already forgot the situation and accepted the apologies
even from outsiders like Tim and the "philosopher 335" as well!! ;-D.
"I know all the pro players in my neck of the woods and none of them
play the low end ibanez guitars. Many good players could make them
sound fine, but in my experience pro level players are looking for
something better. There may be exceptions but I haven't seen them."
I do see many pros with both low ends and high ends instruments around
here. One of my teachers is endorsed by a german hand-made-boutique-
all-carved-freak-archtop-hyper-high-end archtop builder. I haven't
seen my teacher performing with that instrument yet but always with a
cheap non-name solid body. I think she likes actually the tone and
playability of that cheap solidbody though. I will show you an
"exeption": Ulf Wakenius from Sweden, have a look at that link an tell
me how do you like his tone (from an $200 asian solid body Aria LP
copy) in comparison to the legendary Pat Metheny:
Wakenius is a monster and would sound good on anything. His website
he's certainly a monster player
shows him with a variety of instruments including an L5, a cutaway
nylon, and an odd looking solid body. None of those are cheap guitars,
so obviously he appreciates quality instruments even if he can play
great on a cheap one. And that doesn't change the fact that most pro
he does seem to own an L5 but, on the other side, I would say the
nylon string guitar looks kind of yamaha and Godin I think; ergo
perhaps not exactly a very expensive one.
I've been fan of Ulf since some time ago (always expecting to see him
live around here) and he does plays a nylon strings in two (of four
I've bought) cds. I think he plays the yamaha in one cd, and in the
other he appears with the Goding in the innercover. No one of those
extremely expensive guitars, IMHO.
OTOH, to my ears his wonderful distinctive tone comes from his
solidbody. Maybe he actually is playing a different guitar as main axe
but damn how much I love that aria tone in *HIS HANDS* !!
and other serious players are looking for a step up in tone and
playability than what would be available from a $200 solidbody. I'm
now thinking of all the pro level players I've heard in clubs and
concert halls, people of national and international acclaim, and they
were all playing fairly high quality instruments. Could they have
I'm not arguing nor saying that pros in general plays cheap intruments
in favor to expensive ones. I just pointed something maybe worthing to
learn from (but it seems that your flames don't let you see throught
and use you common sense though)
Perhaps the low end ibanez just
I alredy accepted your apologies Philosopher, please stop being so
kind to me, its becoming a bit embarrasing ;-)
if having a drink and listen to some Wes dont make you cool down, just
take a walk.
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more
violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move
in the opposite direction."
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