Re: OT - tax cuts DO NOT create jobs

As a matter of fact MOST discussions are pointless. Petty and Caccioppo's
ELM model of persusion (do a Google it) is very clear on that. Discussions
invariably focus on high involvement matters in which participants follow
central routes of persasion, have strongly entrenched attitudes that are
almost impossible to change. The chance of attitude change in a discussion
is therefore MINIMAL and IMHO pointless. By the way, this is science, not
opinion.

So yes, discussions between highly involved participants with made-up minds
and opposite views are pointless and a waste of time.

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"Peter Grey" <pgrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
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> The reason I posted was that during the course of this thread it seemed
> reasonable to explain why someone (in this case me) doesn't like OT posts;
> especially those that are likely to get people riled up. I'm sufficiently
> grounded in reality to know that OT posts - political and otherwise - are
> going to be a part of the NG. I don't expect that people will follow my
> personal guidelines.
>
> I draw the line somewhere between OT joke posts and OT political posts.
> Given the context of this NG, disagreement about what Jim Hall had in mind
> when he played over Angel Eyes or what to play over a minor II-V is, to my
> mind, different than disagreement over political positions.
>
> I don't believe that political disagreements on a NG change anybody's
> mind. They usually descend into name calling pretty quickly, which as far
> as I'm concerned is a waste of bandwidth, and is perhaps one of the
> reasons I find OT political posts difficult. It seems likely that they
> will degenerate. Even this mild mannered NG has served up plenty of
> examples of this.
>
> BTW, I too, like the jokes and wouldn't want them to stop.
>
> Peter
> www.MachinedThings.com
> <jurupari@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>A NG is supposed to bring people with similar interests together, not
>> find
>> those areas in which they disagree.
>>
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>>
>> Man, that sounds lofty, but look at reality. When are you ever going
>> to find people drawn together by similar interests without
>> disagreement? I don't think that's even all that desirable, really, OT
>> posts notwithstanding.
>>
>> Some of our OT posts are not political - some are just jokes and
>> extremely atrocious puns, the very best kind. Personally, I like those
>> and would like to see more of them - musicians develop a sense of irony
>> that others may not.
>>
>> The truth is, this isn't a monochromatic bunch - posters here hail
>> from all over the world, seem to be generally a lot brighter than
>> average and practice about every profession known to man, so it's no
>> surprise a lot of us share common non-musical interests and spill into
>> them once in awhile.
>>
>> I've learned a lot besides music here, and have been pointed to
>> references I'd never have found on my own in completely unrelated
>> areas. I'm glad several people took the time to do that, speaking just
>> for myself.
>>
>> Clif
>>
>
>


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