Re: Sarah Palin

On Sep 5, 8:22 am, Greg Thomas <gjtho...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 5, 6:46 am, Larry Brown <larrybro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Sep 4, 5:26 pm, Greg Thomas <gjtho...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 4, 1:11 pm, walki...@xxxxxx (hank alrich) wrote:

Greg Thomas <gjtho...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 4, 8:28 am, Wilbur Slice <wil...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 06:44:42 -0700 (PDT), Larry Brown

<larrybro...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So congratulations, Sarah Palin, you did a great job in the speech
tonight.

She certainly was wildly popular with the audience. They LOVED her!
But that's a *bad* thing right?

Well, *I* think it's a bad thing.  I don't want her anywhere near the
White House.  I disagree with her on an awful lot of stuff - she likes
creationism, banning books from the library, fundie christian,
cultural conservative, anti-choice, etc.

But I just think she did a good job on her speech.  Maybe that's
because I had such low expectations - she was bound to be better than
I had expected.  Barack Obama's speech didn't impress me as much, even
though it was a much bette speech.   I suppose that's because I
*expected* high quality from him.

Ya know, I wonder how many people would be ripping you to shreds if
you had substituted "black" or "Jew" for "fundie Chriostian"?

<plonk>

You have problems with facts? She is a Christian fundamentalist. Obama
is black. Sammy Davis Jr. was a black Jew. Are you exhibiting the kind
of intellectual rigor required for informed discussion of issues and
real events?

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Please. Was it the question I asked, which is legitimate, or the
<plonk> that really set everyone off? Suppose a perceived conservative
had said he/she wouldn't vote for Obama because he's black. Would that
remark have gone unchallenged? You're right, Obama is black, Sammy
Davis was a black Jew, and Palin is a Christian fundamentalist. All
facts. Relevant?

The fact that this simple question has apparently offended so many
tells a lot about "the kind of intellectual rigor" of those offended.

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"Palin is a Christian fundamentalist..... Relevant?"

Well it sure is relevant to her supporters.
The reason Sarah Palin has fired up the base so much is not as much
that she is a woman, but because she is a good christian who has the
"right ideas". Think those people who instantly fell in love with
Sarah don't think she will govern with her christian beliefs always at
the forefront?

http://cabalamat.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/palin-god-told-usa-to-invad...

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Yo bra, read up your history. Strike that. Read the Declaration of
Independance.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights . . ." It certainly seems that Jefferson believed in God. I
wonder if he only believed in God before and after he was President,
and not while he was in office. Or maybe he refused to let that belief
color any decision he made while in office.

Come on folks. At least be honest. The hostility many of you have
toward anything having remotely to do with God is blatant. Why is
that?

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Oh please.
The founding fathers thought that governing decisions like going to
war or installing gas pipelines should be based on "God's will"? I'm
supposed to believe that based on the Declaration of Independence?
I'll go read it, but I don't think so.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with believing in God, I said I
don't want government decisions based on anyone's religious beliefs.
You equate "Our elected officials shouldn't let their religion affect
their governing decisions, at least not to the point of 'God wants us
to do it'" with "blatant hostility toward anything to do with God".
Why is that?
Maybe because you are playing the old worn out Persecuted Christian
card. "Everybody is always insulting christians."
If christians are the downtrodden underdog in the United States, why
is it impossible, unTHINKable for any politician to run for high
office while saying "I don't really believe there is a God."? People
of faith are often in the majority in most work/school situations in
the U.S. and people who don't believe most often better be quiet about
it.
Being a fundamentalist christian is a choice, a belief system, a
philosophy. It has absolutely nothing to do with being black or a Jew.
And finally, I don't give a shit what Thomas Jefferson said, did, or
believed, I don't think anyone's faith should be the basis for
government decisions.
.

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