Re: Go Neil!

On Jul 24, 2:10 pm, Larry Pattis <NeverH...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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NY asks techies for a higher quality music file compression form.
Go Neil!

Daniel

Neil has always been a champion for sound quality. The
problem is, The Consumer does not share his sentiment.
He really liked DVD Audio. Nobody bought in ... at
least not in the numbers that make it a viable medium.
The way we listen to music these days, the sound
quality of mp3 sampled at a 320 rate vs. the original
wav files is indistinguishable. I still have a "listening room"
where there is a definate audible difference between
CDs (and LPs) vs. mp3 but that is not the norm these days.

I'm guessing if there is a driving force in music compression
research, it's to make our music take up even less space that
it does now and maintaining the same quality would be
acceptable in the marketplace.

cheers

Paul

I only wish that the standard bit-rate for mp3 files was the 320 you
mention.

I think most people download music at 128k, and to my ears, well, this
sounds like crap. I generally can't tell the difference between 224
and 256, so this is the minimum bit rate threshold for me.

If I'm listening to good music, I want it to have proper audio quality.

--
Larry Pattis
email: LP "at" LarryPattis "dot" com
http://www.LarryPattis.com

We agree on sound quality, Larry. 320 is my personal default rate
as sound quality is more important than storage capacity. To me :-)
In my home system, when converting CDs to hard drive storage I
will generally use a lossless system.

The fact is most people just don't care about sound quality like we do,
and the marketplace is determined by "most people." That is the problem
with Neil's suggestion that technical research focus on better sound
quality ... the majority of folks use a 128 sampling rate and think that
it sounds just fine.

cheers

Paul

Yep.

I spent a few hours last week considering doing my new CD as a
"SuperAudio" CD, and then discarded that notion as ridiculous.

It'll just be a standard format 16 bit AIFF CD, and hopefully folks
that buy it and download to their iPods will consider using a bit rate
that you or I would approve of...but at that point it will be out of my
hands!

I will say this... the 24 bit raw recorded files (here in my little
home-studio) always sound much more full to my ears than the final 16
bit AIFF product when listened to through reference speakers, although
the mix & mastering work (which I don't do on my own) does add a lot
back into the final sound.

I wish we had 24 bit players out there as the standard, and could do
the mix/master and then leave things at 24 bit!

--
Larry Pattis
email: LP "at" LarryPattis "dot" comhttp://www.LarryPattis.com

Neither Super Audio CD nor DVD Audio caught on and it seems like Super
Audio CD is pretty much dead except maybe for boutique European
classical releases (at least that's what someone told me). There is
life in the Blu-Ray video format and that may become a means of
distributing higher quality audio, but the public just isn't leaning
towards quality. Maybe it's the fact that some of us are reluctant to
keep re-buying the same content in new formats. It's kind of a shame
though that more folks don't rip their CD's losslessly or at least at
higher bit rates than the default.

I just find it ironic that the 128 kbps bitrate AAC's and mp3's are so
dominant when storage keeps halving in price every couple of years.
This morning I got an email from Micro Center and the sales were a
500GB hard drive for $69 and an 8Gb flash drive for $20

That half TB drive could hold 5,000 CD's worth of 256 kbps files and
close to 1,000 uncompressed CD quality WAV files. That's way bigger
than most folks music collections.

*** thaxter
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