Re: Zero Fret?
- From: Ken Cashion <kcashion@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 11:45:35 -0500
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 20:39:03 -0500, Foldedpath
<mbarrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>"David Martel" <marte005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>news:xbzHe.8904$6f.3245@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> In thinking more about this I do think that I'm wrong about nut slot
>> height.
>> But the OP wanted to know about the advantages of nuts over zero
>> frets,
>> so how about this? Some folks hate the sound of open strings and play
>> all bar chords, others love the sound of open strings. Does having a
>> plastic or bone nut cause the open strings in a chord to sound subtly
>> different from the fretted strings. I wonder if the open string haters
>> would love the zero fret while the open string lovers would all be
>> nuts. Or something like that.
>
>That's an interesting question, but I don't think the difference would
>be, or should be noticeable on a well-made guitar. Otherwise we'd all be
>using zero frets. :) If there is one major advantage to zero frets from
>the player perspective, it's probably what Harv said... a nice feel in
>first position, because you can't ever have a "too high" nut.
>
>I was curious about whether I just hadn't paid attention to this issue
>of tonal difference, so today I tried listening very carefully to the
>sound of fretted vs. open notes on my Santa Cruz FS (custom version,
>Koa/German spruce). Honestly... maybe my ears are shot, but I can't hear
>a difference. I know steel is harder than bone, so maybe theoretically
>there *should* be a difference. I'm just not hearing it on this guitar.
>But then.... one reason I really like this guitar is that it's fairly
>indifferent to fret position. I can move a melody from first position
>with open strings, to barre and closed chords in the middle of the neck
>and back down again, with very little difference in tone. That's exactly
>what I'm looking for. I've played guitars that have a wonderful voice in
>open position, or open tunings with drone strings, that sound completely
>different when you play higher up the neck. That's NOT what I'm looking
>for in a guitar. So maybe you'd hear this nut material vs. fret material
>difference more on some guitars than others? I dunno.
>
>Mike Barrs
Mike, you pretty-much summed up my thinking, as well. There
are some things we can do to guitars that we intuitively know makes a
difference...it would have to...but the issue is can we hear the
difference?
With my hearing, I lose the thread of conversation (joking,
barely) so there are many sounds in guitars each of us may or may not
hear.
The truth is that if we could truely share our sense of
hearing with each other, many of our guitar opinions would change. I
know there has to be more treble in my guitars than I am hearing.
I think my 12-string Framus jingles the way I have it set up.
That is to my hearing -- it must sound really tinny to other people.
Ken
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