Re: Desperate ... help ..Yamaha keyboard/MIDI files

On Dec 2, 1:29 pm, Sunil Dandekar <sunnydande...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Dec 1, 9:14 am, "vijaykum...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <vijaykum...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:





On Nov 29, 11:45 am, UVR <u...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 28, 8:42 pm, "vijaykum...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <vijaykum...@my-

deja.com> wrote:
I need some help with a Yamaha PSR keyboard...

I bought the MIDI cable, connected the keyboard to the computer and
successfully transfered the songs that my daughter recorded on
the keyboard to the computer..

Now, I have a 121KB blob sitting on my hard disk - 05pk.usr
and I have now clue how to convert that to a MIDI file that I can open
with
the MuseScore software that I downloaded.

Has anyone successfully converted the Yamaha 05pk.usr file to
MIDI format?

I need to get this done this weekend to meet a Monday
deadline.

Vijay

I don't have a solution for your problem, but a workaround that might
work: connect the audio-out (headphone output?) of the keyboard to
your computer's line-in, play the midi files on the keyboard and
record them on the computer using your favorite sound recording
software.  I realize this could interfere with the quality of the
recorded sound, but something is better than nothing, right?

-UVR.

I did scour other web-sites to see if anyone had a solution..
What I learnt is that there are many who have the same problem,
and have found Yamaha tech support singularly unhelpful, but
no one that had a solution.

I *did* find two other pieces of freeware
MIDIPiano (version 1.8.5), and MuseScore (v 0.9.3) that I found
to be useful.

The first allows the computer to be used as a keyboard so that
you can play your song on the computer directly (you can even
configure the keyboard) and record the result as a MIDI file.

The second, takes the MIDI file and generates musical score
for that song.

A useful combination, but the quality of sound from MIDIPiano
is certainly not as rich as even the basic Yamaha keyboard I
have at home. And when I opened the MIDI file generated by
MIDIPiano using MuseScore, and played the song there, I found
that the score had not been reproduced with the same fidelity.

Ultimately, I have settled on using a combination of the two...

Your suggestion was my back-up plan all along, and that is what
I ended up using. My daughter played her composition on the
regular Yamaha keyboard and I recorded that, ultimately using
Goldwave to finesse it and cut the CD. I also used the score
generated by MuseScore to back up the sound track on the CD.

Vijay- Hide quoted text -

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Vijay,

Saw your post too late. I have not used Yamaha keyboards at
all, however when you save the song,
do you get an option to save it as a midi? Usually all reputed
brands have facility to save song
in the proprietory format or the midi.

Nope...no options in terms of format. You have a "one-key"
back up facility to save the song on the keyboard. Then,
you have something called the "MusicSoft downloader" from
Yamaha which you install on the computer and use that
to transfer the file from the keyboard to your computer.
By the way, although you can save up to five songs on the
keyboard, the download function bundles them all together
into one file - the aforementioned 05PK.usr file.

The same "MusicSoft downlader" program allows you to
transfer MIDI files *to* the keyboard, which is supposed
to let you use the feature on the keyboard that shows
the keys to use. I did not try the transfers in the
other direction, but some of the web scouring I undertook
indicated that this does not work either.

If the feature is available then you can copy the file in the
midi to your PC and open and process it
using any of your favourite DAW software.

As you may be aware , midi format is not really a music format,
but a set of messages corresponding
to each note played. As such most of the keyboards do not have a
facility for conversion to midi from
the native format.

The quality of the sound depends on the MIDI wavetable being
used by the PC or the digital audio work station. If you have
not installed any specific wave table or patch liabrary then
the default is Microsoft GM wavetable and yes, the sounds are
really really elementary, tinny and artificial.


MuseScore had a reasonably rich sound when I tried to open
other MIDI files that are already on my computer (c:\winnt\media).
It is just that the reproduction from the MIDI file created
by MIDIPiano was sub-standard. I think the blame for that
should lie with MIDIPiano

However I have seen the performance of some of the commercial patch
libraries and the sounds are
awesome. The one that I know that gives awesome results is the
Edirol patch library.

regards,

Sunil

Next time I have an occasion to use one, I shall remember
this. Thanks for your inputs.

Vijay
.

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