Re: How I could just kill a boy...

On Jun 27, 10:37 am, Wasteland Drifter <wasteland.drif...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
mochaspresso wrote:
On Jun 27, 9:19 am, mattmatical <i...@xxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:27:18 +0200, Luca wrote:
If it's the one who did this...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/8120560.stm
Stuff like that concerns the parent in you, doesn't it?

I don't care how bad your unsocialised conduct disorder is or if you
hate your peoples, there's no way he'd get to tell his side of the story.
?

Matt

This article says that social services was involved with the family
prior to this but failed to take action.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195724/Social-services-knew-...

Firstly, using a Daily Mail link is next to useless. They're only
interested because they see it as an excuse to attack 'left-wing' social
services. We'd have no social services if they had their way, or if they
did decide that maybe the country did need some the only ones remaining
would be for white middle class people.

Secondly, if any of the 'information' in that link proves anything it's
that the childs mother was a smack addict - which isn't the greatest of
surprises - and that alone isn't a reason for her child to be taken from
her.


The article also says that several reports of abuse and neglect had
been made. If that's true and they weren't investigated properly,
then yes, the social service system did fail that particular child.


It says nothing about your other claims that the murderer would have
had
his 'condition' diagnosed a long time ago.

It's not the USA, shit works differently over here, kids aren't pumped
full of drugs and/or sent to therapists when they act like kids.


Conduct disorder is not a simple case of a kid acting like a kid and
being misunderstood. It's a much more serious issue and it's also
something that would have been evident very early. I would be very
interested in reading more about the background of the boy. That is
not something that just suddenly pops up when the kid turned 15..

When parents say stupidness like that we call it DENIAL.

'Threatening to beat up a teacher and stab another man' is no indication
he was going to go apeshit with the kid, if it was then my old Maths
teacher who threatened to bomb my house because I wouldn't shut up in
class must be a mass murderer who just hasn't been caught yet.

That teacher would have been fired here (and rightly so imo). Well,
technically, if he doesn't have tenure, fired. With tenure, he would
have been reassigned to the teacher equivalent of "desk duty" pending
an investigation and then eventually fired if found guilty.

Not to
mention the countless other children who make exactly the same claims.

The article, which uses a report to damn all social services and the
child's mother, even includes this:

"John Merry, the leader of Salford council, said: 'I do not want to make
excuses, but the report's sad conclusion is that this tragedy could not
have been foreseen and it could not have been prevented.'"


I disagree. Normal people don't let someone with conduct disorder
babysit their kids. Who would do such a thing? Maybe a negligent
mother whose judgment is impaired because she may have been using
drugs?

It was a horrible event, the child who committed the crime will be
imprisoned for a long time, and the mother no doubt will never forgive
herself (if she doesn't die within the next few months I'll be surprised.)

The last thing these situations need are judgemental individuals
condemning everyone in sight and the right-wing media crowing over how
many points they can score because a child has been murdered.

Both of those are as sickening as the event itself.

I don't care about right wing or left wing or which newspaper in the
UK represents which side. The mother was negligent and needs to be in
jail too.
.

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