Re: Hip Hop Could never die


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On Feb 20, 8:04 pm, "Dippi" <wonttell...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"mochaspresso" <mochaspre...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Feb 20, 7:06 am, NATnatical <dfmckaha...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Feb 20, 6:23 am, mochaspresso <mochaspre...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well I can disagree toa point. I grew up in a well-educated, lower
middle class household. I was reading and listening to music. My
father had already exposed me to a broad spectrum of music and
politics. Still... somewhere around 4th grade... my discovery of
music really helped to open my minds.

Punk and New Wave was something i found myself. The Clash opened up
conversations with my dad... who took out his copy of "Funky
Kingston" (a record I had heard practically since birth, but never
fully acknowledged) and played me the original "Pressure Drop." I
stole all my dad's reggae records (about 15 of them) and took them
into my room. Marc Almond caused me to ask my dad about Jacques
Brel... he then introduced me to Leonard Cohen and the 60's
folksingers. We discovered Billy Bragg together... and pops pulled
out his old Folways Union song records. I got excited about issues
through folk and hardcore... and my father, a laissez-faire anarchist,
was more than happy to fill my brain with books and magazines on the
topics that came up in my musical adventure.

I'm lucky to have had a father who could help this transition.
Without him... I may have only had the music to rely upon. My high
school art teacher hipped me to jazz that didn't suck... but it didn't
hurt when I'd hear a jazz sample in a hip hop track... it strengthened
the bond and made it my own.

I owe as much to music as I do to my mentors. If PE made someone pick
up a Malcolm X book - is that wrong? No - it's honorable. As a NY
Irish American... I grew up already aware and active in the struggle
for Civil Rights. My clan of NY Micks saw a direct correaltion
between America's racism and the opression of our mother people over
on Alan's isalnd. My dad's Irish rebel magazines were very pro black
(and pro-Palestine... which didn't make me too popular in my 60%
Jewish Junior and High School.) I was raised with full knowledge of
the class war and its racial tricknology. But ll causes need
anthems.... and the first time I heard "Rightstarter" on Hofstra radio
I knew I found the anthems!

As a music nerd... I always loved bands that put reading lists and
favorite artists and filmakers and such in their SPECIAL THANKS TO
sections. I have always devoured liner notes... and I still pick up
on new stuff I probably should have known by now by reading them.

So therefore, I fully believe that music can be a big part of
education, and there is no shame in Chuck D being anyone's
introduction to politics, even if they live in this country.

I really just think that given today's hip-hop, that's a dangerous can
of worms to open. I don't want my kids getting their politics from
Lil Wayne or Kanye or TI or Diddy or Jay-Z.

I agree with both of you, but then again the only artist that ever
affected
my life in any signifigant way was 2Pac. If i remember correctly neither
of
you are too fond of him either.

Bite your tongue. I loved 2pac. I didn't like what he deteriorated
into before he died....but I always loved his music.

Ahh I stand corrected... its been a long time, memory is hazy. I just
remember Josh being the only person from here i would get into 2pac
discussions with because he wasnt generally appreciated here.


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